Sep 19, 2019 06:40
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French term

concurrence raisonnée

French to English Bus/Financial Medical: Pharmaceuticals
I'm looking for a translation of this term: concurrence raisonnée: concurrence libre et à armes égales entre laboratories

In the pharmaceutical industry

thanks

Discussion

Cyril Tollari Nov 15, 2019:
If we don't have any further inputs for this term, I think it's safe enough to go with a EU ref.
Cyril Tollari Sep 19, 2019:
I think it's not a formal definition like the one you would find in a dictionary. I think A 'concurrence raisonnée' is a consequence of B 'concurrence libre et à armes égales entre laboratories' based on the dictionary definition of each term. If we have B, then we have A (consequence). If we have A, it means we've achieved B. That's why to their view, they are the same.
SafeTex Sep 19, 2019:
@ Cyril, Phil and all Hello

As it's a definition, I think that A must = B (are equivalents)
On the other hand, we do sometimes see "circular" definitions in dictionaries that actually tell us nothing.
Like "accuracy" = the quality of state of being accurate"
So a good definition has to use close synonyms and its normal to be "circular" to use Phil's term but not so circular that the definition does not help us.

Just my take on things
Cyril Tollari Sep 19, 2019:
I could be wrong, but I don't think both mean exactly the same thing

Concurrence raisonnée : qui s'appuie sur des raisons, sur des arguments, sur des preuves. Synon. argumenté.Requête raisonnée; compte raisonné; débat raisonné (des motifs de qqc.)
https://www.cnrtl.fr/lexicographie/raisonné

concurrence libre et à armes égales entre laboratories : to me means everyone can openly express their views and describe the avantages of their service. So 'concurrence raisonnée', as in having competition based on reason, proof, and justification is made possible by having the other one (''concurrence libre et à armes égales").




philgoddard Sep 19, 2019:
This is a circular definition - it's basically saying "free and fair competition is free and fair competition". How you deal with it will depend on the wider context, and you may have to leave something out.

Proposed translations

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reasoned competition

looking into solutions to enable ‘reasoned competition’.

http://curia.europa.eu/juris/document/document.jsf?docid=124...
Peer comment(s):

agree Daryo : FR and EN terms used in the FR and EN version of the same document, by an institution you would expect can afford good translators - I'll tend to see it as convincing reference.
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Merci !
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Rationalised competition:

Rationalised or well thought out competition: open competition amongst laboratories with a level playing field
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orderly competition

https://books.google.fr › books
Jan Goldberg - 2005 - ‎History
... of the 1933 National Industrial Recovery Act. This act was designed to improve the economy by encouraging fair and orderly competition in business.

www.fbf.fr › market-&-investments-banking › mifid
Results 1 - 9 of 9 - The French Banking Federation calls for a regulatory framework for European markets that fosters orderly competition while protecting investors ...

https://www.ftc.gov › documents › public_statements › prepared-remarks
by TB Leary - ‎Cited by 11 - ‎Related articles
This kind of orderly competition within stores and across stores, may ... about the superiority of orderly competition are legally cognizable when horizontal ...
Peer comment(s):

neutral Daryo : yes, the idea of "orderly" competition does exists [presumably as the opposite of a "no holds barred / free for all mêlée / Wild West" type of competition], but where is the connection with "concurrence raisonnée"?
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The "raisonnée" is required in order for it to be orderly.
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