Nov 5, 2019 07:02
4 yrs ago
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French term
contrat d’encadrement et de commercialisation
French to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
Contract between an organization helping small farmers in Africa sell mangoes
I'm translating a report on modernizing agriculture in Africa. This term appears in a sentence about an organization that helps small farmers sell their mangos:
elle propose aux producteurs un contrat d’encadrement et de commercialisation de leurs productions sur une base équitable et pérenne
elle propose aux producteurs un contrat d’encadrement et de commercialisation de leurs productions sur une base équitable et pérenne
Proposed translations
(English)
3 +4 | technical assistance and marketing contract | Ph_B (X) |
3 +4 | management and marketing contract/agreement | writeaway |
4 -1 | framework and marketing agreement | Tim Bayton |
Proposed translations
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technical assistance and marketing contract
Adapted from the source quoted in the discussion box to reflect the question as asked. There may be a better way of saying this in "Legal/Business English" but I'm certain that's what it means on the basis of my native speaker's instinct and personal knowledge of the subject (see discussion).
Peer comment(s):
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philgoddard
: Good idea. This term is often used in an aid context.
54 mins
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Yes, I think so. Thanks.
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agree |
SafeTex
: I feel that this is much more about being helped and guided than managed.
6 hrs
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Thanks, my feeling too.
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agree |
Michael Confais (X)
6 hrs
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Thanks.
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Cyril Tollari
: technical assistance and purchase contract
3 days 6 hrs
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Thanks; yes, "purchase" is mentioned in the source I quoted in the discussion box. But the question is about "marketing" and I'm afraid that translating that as "purchase" would be hard to justify here. Vivien may have info that wld support yr suggestion.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
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3 hrs
framework and marketing agreement
'Framework agreement' is more common than 'framework contract'. As it's not a 'contrat de vente' though, I recommend 'marketing' rather than 'sales'. This is the agreement between the supplier and the agent/dealer, which almost certainly specifies the volume to be sold and the framework conditions.
Peer comment(s):
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Ph_B (X)
: agree about framework and marketing, but don't think it's about suppliers and their agents. See discussion./OK, so "framework" may not be the right word but on the other hand, it does appear to be about suppliers/agents. :-) Again, see discussion.
1 hr
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neutral |
philgoddard
: I may be wrong, but I don't think this is correct, and you haven't given any references. Framework contract is usually contrat cadre.
2 hrs
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disagree |
Adrian MM.
: I am afraid that encadrement is rather cognate with 'les cadres' as executives/ *middle management* (EEC pre-EU FRE/ENG Glossary 1990) and means supervision or (credit) control or regulation.
2 hrs
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disagree |
B D Finch
: A framework agreement is an "accord cadre". Note the difference between "cadre" used adjectivally and "encadrement".
3 hrs
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4 hrs
management and marketing contract/agreement
in the context provided:elle propose aux producteurs un contrat d’encadrement et de commercialisation de leurs productions
99104 Marketing Aftica's High-Value Foods .Comparative ...
documents.worldbank.org › curated › text
While the government would have a majority equity share holding, a key element of the project would be a management and marketing contract with (and ..
http://documents.worldbank.org/curated/en/910891493330747787...
Cooperative Management and Marketing for the Woodland Owner
https://books.google.be › books
1943 - Forests and forestry, Cooperative
Upon joining the association, woodland owners sign a management and marketing agreement to the effect that their woodlands will be managed for sustained ...
99104 Marketing Aftica's High-Value Foods .Comparative ...
documents.worldbank.org › curated › text
While the government would have a majority equity share holding, a key element of the project would be a management and marketing contract with (and ..
http://documents.worldbank.org/curated/en/910891493330747787...
Cooperative Management and Marketing for the Woodland Owner
https://books.google.be › books
1943 - Forests and forestry, Cooperative
Upon joining the association, woodland owners sign a management and marketing agreement to the effect that their woodlands will be managed for sustained ...
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Rachel Fell
19 mins
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neutral |
Ph_B (X)
: Agree about marketing, but don't think it's about management as such. See discussion./Talking about "management" here, not about "framework".
44 mins
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I don't see how framework works in the context. See context.
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philgoddard
: Your references are English, so they don't prove anything. I don't believe this is the correct answer - farmers wouldn't want to be managed by someone else.
1 hr
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whatever/but the sales of their produce would be.
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Adrian MM.
: www.linguee.fr/francais-anglais/traduction/supervision+et+encadrement.html
2 hrs
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agree |
B D Finch
: Or supervision/piloting, depending upon the detail of what's involved. https://www.amf-france.org/Reglementation/Dossiers-thematiqu...
2 hrs
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agree |
Jessica Noyes
2 hrs
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neutral |
SafeTex
: I haven't given a "disagree" as I've already given an agree but I too don't like "management" in this context. Who wants to have their business managed by someone else? The negative connotation destroys what I feel is the real meaning. To help/support
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Discussion
iate.europa.eu/search/standard/result/1572959812196/1 - encadrement > mentoring
supervision vs. management: www.linguee.fr/francais-anglais/traduction/supervision et e...
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/french/marketing/513321-contrat-d... I think that you could rejig the sentence to: Sales Framework Agreement (or if not sales, whatever your choice is - distribution etc). encadrement is a framework. A framework agreement is a common term. Hope this helps.