Sep 9, 2020 20:06
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Portuguese term

Deliberação

Portuguese to English Social Sciences Government / Politics Legislative glossary
Is it ok to translate "deliberação" for "deliberation" in the context below? I don't see why not but I have heard some objection.

Deliberação: ato praticado por órgãos colegiados de decidir sobre uma questão pautada. A deliberação consiste na votação da matéria. (Glossário Legislativo)

Discussion

Mark Robertson Sep 10, 2020:
False friends Deliberação/deliberation are false friends.
Muriel Vasconcellos Sep 9, 2020:
Putting the cart before the horse Deliberation occurs *before* a decision is reached. Deliberation is a well-established legal term. I have cited a definition in my answer. The term comes up a lot in the work I do on a board of directors.
Ana Vozone Sep 9, 2020:
Definição The official expression of the opinion or will of a legislative body. The rules of the legislative body determine how much support must be given to the motion before it can be put to a general vote. ... The rules also specify what number of votes the resolution must attract to be passed.
https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/resolution

Proposed translations

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deliberation

From https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?typed=deliberation&t...

deliberation
n. the act of considering, discussing and, hopefully, reaching a conclusion, such as a jury's discussions, voting and decision-making.

A resolution is the result of the deliberative process. Deliberation is a process. Lawmakers deliberate before reaching a decision.

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Resolution

Sugestão.
Peer comment(s):

agree Sergio Carré : Conforme item 4. do https://www.thefreedictionary.com/resolution
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Obrigada, Sérgio!
agree Danilo Santana
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Obrigada, Danilo!
agree Mark Robertson : You beat me to it
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Obrigada, Mark!
neutral Muriel Vasconcellos : A resolution is the *result* of the deliberation process.
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Resolution

Deliberação: (...) a decisão ou resolução tomada pelas entidades coletivas, nas quais, por maioria de votos das pessoas físicas que a integram, se tem a deliberação como tomada.

Vocabulário Jurídico, De Plácido e Silva, 28ª Edição, pág. 429.

In English, a deliberation is a decision taken after careful consideration, normally in a formal context, but without the detailed meaning of deliberação, infra.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/delibera...

However:

Resolution: an official decision that is made after a group or organization has voted.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/resoluti...



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Note added at 24 mins (2020-09-09 20:31:00 GMT)
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infra = supra
Peer comment(s):

neutral Muriel Vasconcellos : A resolution is the *result* of the deliberation process.
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Agreed
disagree Maria da Glória Teixeira : DISCORDO!!!!!
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pronouncement

pronouncement
Peer comment(s):

neutral Muriel Vasconcellos : A pronouncement is the *result* of the deliberation process.
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Thanks Muriel - fair enough
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Portuguese term (edited): Deliberação / es

Decision-making / proceedings

Could also be consultation, but in the plural usually connotes in EU terminology: proceedings

Many glossary entries, most overlapping and self-affirming in an act of 'complementarity' :

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Fields Term translation Poster | answerer Source
[Click for term details] Portuguese to English Not specified deliberacao resolution, decision Daniel Marcus | ghadifouad Wikiwords
[Click for term details] Portuguese to English Law/Patents deliberacao resolution, decision Daniel Marcus | Michael Powers (PhD) KudoZ
[Click for term details] Portuguese to English Law/Patents
> Law (general) Deliberação Resolution Ana Ribeiro Glossary
[Click for term details] Portuguese to English Bus/Financial; Science
> Economics deliberação resolution Gabriel T. Velloso Glossary
[Click for term details] Portuguese to English Bus/Financial; Science
> Economics DELIBERAÇÃO RESOLUTION Claudio Chagas (X) Glossary
[Click for term details] Portuguese to English Law/Patents deliberacao resolution Karin Usher | Maria Luisa Duarte KudoZ
[Click for term details] Portuguese to English Not specified Deliberação Deliberation Marilia Sette Câmara Glossary
[Click for term details] Portuguese to English Not specified deliberação resolution Marcelo Gonçalves Glossary
[Click for term details] Portuguese to English Not specified deliberação decision Deolinda Esteves Glossary
[Click for term details] Portuguese to English > General/Conversation/Greetings/Letters deliberação deliberation Adriana Portas Glossary
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> Law (general) deliberação resolution Terry Crispin Glossary
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> Law (general) deliberação resolution; deliberation; determination Simon Foakes Glossary
[Click for term details] Portuguese to English Law/Patents deliberação resolution Karin Usher KOG
[Click for term details] Portuguese to English Not specified deliberação resolution Karin Usher Wikiwords
[Click for term details] Portuguese to English Law/Patents deliberacao resolution, decision Daniel Marcus KOG
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> Law (general) RESOLUTION DECISÃO, DELIBERAÇÃO Lucia Rodrigues Glossary
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> Law (general) DECISÃO, DELIBERAÇÃO RESOLUTION Lucia Rodrigues Glossary
[Click for term details] Portuguese to English Law/Patents instância máxima de deliberação highest decision-making body Ilse Ackerman | Deolindo KudoZ
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> Law: Contract(s)
> "Articles of association" mediante previa deliberação after previous deliberation peterinmadrid | rhandler KudoZ
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> Business/Commerce (general) acta de deliberação deliberation minutes Christopher Fitzsimons | Clauwolf KudoZ
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> Finance (general)
> "Condonimium statement" Fachadas conf Deliberação Jerome Ellis KudoZ
[Click for term details] Portuguese to English Law/Patents deliberaçao de acionistas Shareholders' resolution sandra carrazzoni | Francesco D'Alessandro KudoZ
[Click for term details] Portuguese to English Bus/Financial
> Business/Commerce (general) Deliberação Unânime Por Escrito Unanimous Written Decision Jane Ashford (X) | Paula Vaz-Carreiro KudoZ
[Click for term details] Portuguese to English Not specified mediante previa deliberação after previous deliberation rhandler Glossary
[Click for term details] Portuguese to English Not specified mediante previa deliberação after prior deliberation Neil Stewart Glossary
Example sentence:

no processo de deliberação política sobre a distribuição do espectro de frequências. in the political decision-making process on the distribution of the frequency spectrum.

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