Nov 19, 2020 13:53
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Spanish term

delito asociativo

Spanish to English Law/Patents Law (general) Criminal; El Salvador
Hello, I am reviewing some translations that were worked on by multiple people, but it seems none of them came to a consensus as to how to translate the different crimes as some or all have a different variation of the translation.

This is from El Salvador and I have been using their Penal Code as a reference to understand what these mean so that they can be standardized and translated in the best way possible into English. It's about the Penal Code regarding gangs (MS13, 18th Street).

I'm seeing ASSOCIATIVE CRIME and CRIME OF ASSOCIATION

I think CRIME OF ASSOCIATION is a better way to put it since ASSOCIATIVE CRIME is literal. Although, I still think that the original term is vague. From reading up on the subject I found that this wording has been updated as AGRUPACIONES ILICITAS (which is another term and question) so that leads me to understand this as the charges being for having connections or being members of the gangs/maras.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Discussion

AllegroTrans Nov 20, 2020:
Nor can I
philgoddard Nov 19, 2020:
I can't actually see "delito asociativo" in your text.
Janelly Palacios (asker) Nov 19, 2020:
Wanted to add the definition Así mismo, a los imputados […], se les atribuye el delito de AGRUPACIONES ILÍCITAS, el cual se encuentra tipificado en el Art. 345 del Código Penal, que literalmente dice: "El que tome parte en una agrupación, asociación u organización ilícita será sancionado con prisión de tres a cinco años. Los organizadores, jefes, dirigentes o cabecillas serán sancionados con prisión de seis a nueve años. Si se tratara de agrupación, asociación u organización del crimen organizado o de las mencionadas en el artículo uno de la Ley de Proscripción de Pandillas o Maras y Grupos de Exterminio, la pena podrá aumentarse hasta las dos terceras partes del máximo. Será considerada penalmente ilícita la agrupación, asociación u organización con, al menos, las siguientes características: que esté conformada por dos o más personas, que exista durante cierto tiempo de hecho o de derecho, que posea algún grado de estructuración y que tenga la finalidad de delinquir. Si además de los anteriores elementos la agrupación, asociación u organización tiene como propósito obtener, directa o indirectamente, un beneficio económico u otro beneficio de orden material, será considerada del crimen organizado.
liz askew Nov 19, 2020:
Did you mean: considerando el delito asociativo como


El “crimen organizado”: un concepto extraño al derecho penal ...www.scielo.br › scielo
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4 Apr 2017 — ... considerando al delito asociativo como una anticipación (acto preparatorio) del delito fin de la asociación. La fundamentación de la punición ...

Proposed translations

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criminal conspiracy


In criminal law, a conspiracy is an agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime at some time in the future. Criminal law in some countries or for some conspiracies may require that at least one overt act be undertaken in furtherance of that agreement, to constitute an offense. (Wikipedia)
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Spanish term (edited): Lat. Am. : delito asociativo

US: confederate crime UK/ IrE crime of conspiracy

Patinba beat me to the conspiracy, but the latter is an 'inchoate' so an incomplete offence in the UK
Example sentence:

4. an accomplice, esp. in a mischievous or criminal act. 5. (cap.) a supporter of the Confederate States of America.

confederate - someone who assists in a plot. collaborator, henchman, partner in crime.

Note from asker:
Yes, in fact they even refer to the person as "el incoado". I think what makes this even more confusing is that they're using delito asociativo and agrupaciones ilicitas back and forth and it appears to mean the same thing.
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enterprise crime

Black’s Law Dictionary
enterprise. ... 2. Under federal anti-racketeering law, an individual, partnership, corporation, association, union, other legal entity, or group of individuals associated in fact, although not a legal entity. • The enterprise must be ongoing and must exist as an entity separate from the allegedly illegal activity that it engages in. 18 USCA §1961(4).

18 U.S. Code §1961. Definitions...
(4) “enterprise” includes any individual, partnership, corporation, association, or other legal entity, and any union or group of individuals associated in fact although not a legal entity;
Peer comment(s):

agree Z-Translations Translator
4 hrs
Thank you, Z.
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associative crime

AKA "associating with known criminals" see Google for refs.(http://www.aele.org/law/Digests/empl14.html)

Example sentence:

Current laws ...do not envisage the criminal conspiracy associative crime legal body offences.

... the close correlation between the associative crime and the crimes for which the accused are charged

Peer comment(s):

agree EirTranslations
15 hrs
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2 days 9 hrs

criminal association

Criminal association is in relation to organized crime or an individual's participation in a group which conspires to carry out criminal activity. This can be considered with almost equal importance to the crime or activity itself.

(El delito asociativo se relaciona con el crimen organizado u la participación de un individuo con un grupo que conspira (confabula) para realizar una actividad criminal. La conspiración (o la confabulación) en si puede ser casi tan importante como el crimen o la actividad.)
"La participación del acusado en una organización delincuente es el ofensivo, más que un acuerdo con miembros de la asociación u organización, o la planificación de un crimen con otros, que es el enfoque central de la conspiracía o confabulación."
Example sentence:

"While conspiracy is the main legal element for addressing criminal enterprises, it's dealt with as the offense of criminal association. Participation of the accused in a criminal organization or planning a crime with others is the focus of conspiracy."

Mientras que la confabulación es el principal elemento legal usado para dirigirse a una empresa delincuente, está tratada como el ofensivo del delito asociativo. "

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