Apr 24, 2004 22:06
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400 million passenger enplanements
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What does “passenger enplanements” really mean in this context?
Why isn’t it 240 million? 20 million travelers per month make 240 million annually. Where does this difference come form?
Enplanement: The total number of passengers boarding an aircraft
CONTEXT:
CNN Airport Network is available to more than 20 million travelers in more than 1,775 gate areas per month at 39 airports, representing more than 400 million passenger enplanements annually.
Enplanement: The total number of passengers boarding an aircraft and the total revenue tons of freight and mail loaded on an aircraft.
Why isn’t it 240 million? 20 million travelers per month make 240 million annually. Where does this difference come form?
Enplanement: The total number of passengers boarding an aircraft
CONTEXT:
CNN Airport Network is available to more than 20 million travelers in more than 1,775 gate areas per month at 39 airports, representing more than 400 million passenger enplanements annually.
Enplanement: The total number of passengers boarding an aircraft and the total revenue tons of freight and mail loaded on an aircraft.
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the airports represent 400 million enplanements
Possibly. The network is available to 20 million passengers per month, at the 39 major airports which carry 400 million passengers annually. You are right, though, that the reference is only to passengers, not cargo.
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Note added at 6 hrs 44 mins (2004-04-25 04:50:09 GMT)
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Since the network is available only in gate areas, the difference in numbers could probably be explained by the fact that it thus doesn\'t reach travellers boarding at gates where it hasn\'t been installed.
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Note added at 6 hrs 44 mins (2004-04-25 04:50:09 GMT)
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Since the network is available only in gate areas, the difference in numbers could probably be explained by the fact that it thus doesn\'t reach travellers boarding at gates where it hasn\'t been installed.
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Comment: "You are right! Here is the answer directly from CNN:
Yes, the numbers in the script are correct. The difference is 400 million represents the total number of people in the airport in one year getting on a plane. The 20 million per month is the number of those 400 million that have access to Airport Network. Not all terminals in each airport have access to Airport Network.
Thanks to all of you!"
5 mins
400 million passengers boarding planes / passenger boardings
and possibly the "per month" refers to the 1775 gates and not necessarely to the number of passengers. Anyway that is one way to "set that calculation at ease"
7 mins
Faulty arithmetic
The source is multiplying the monthly number of emplanements times the number of airports (39) instead times of the number of months (12).
Peer comment(s):
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pidzej
: your maths seems only marginally better - 20 million times 39 ports is way over 400m AFAIK
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Some travelers travel more than once a month!
One possible explanation...
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5 mins
see comment
enplanement is concerned with the transport (boarding), not the travelling. The difference is in the focus.
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Note added at 13 mins (2004-04-24 22:19:23 GMT)
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http://www.dot.state.ny.us/pubtrans/enpl1.html (for enplanement)
and
http://www.boarding.no/art.asp?id=11621 (for passengers boarding)
Also, passengers boarding is not related only to planes (boats, trains, buses) : http://www.geh.org/ar/strip01/htmlsrc/m197501121999_ful.html
furthermore enplanement is something used for tax purposes:
http://ntl.bts.gov/card_view.cfm?docid=12417
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Note added at 2 hrs 4 mins (2004-04-25 00:10:23 GMT)
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as already mentioned, it refers to passenger enplanement for a matter of taxation which is done on a yearly basis. Also, giving a monthly estimated would not cover the heavy variations between slow months and hectic months.
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Note added at 2 hrs 9 mins (2004-04-25 00:15:42 GMT)
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a. Commercial Service Airports are publicly owned airports that have at least 2,500 passenger boardings each calendar year and receive scheduled passenger service. Passenger boardings refer to revenue passenger boardings on an aircraft in service in air commerce whether or not in scheduled service. The definition also includes passengers who continue on an aircraft in international flight that stops at an airport in any of the 50 States for a non-traffic purpose, such as refueling or aircraft maintenance rather than passenger activity. Passenger boardings at airports that receive scheduled passenger service are also referred to as Enplanements.
http://www.faa.gov/arp/planning/stats/index.cfm
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Note added at 13 mins (2004-04-24 22:19:23 GMT)
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http://www.dot.state.ny.us/pubtrans/enpl1.html (for enplanement)
and
http://www.boarding.no/art.asp?id=11621 (for passengers boarding)
Also, passengers boarding is not related only to planes (boats, trains, buses) : http://www.geh.org/ar/strip01/htmlsrc/m197501121999_ful.html
furthermore enplanement is something used for tax purposes:
http://ntl.bts.gov/card_view.cfm?docid=12417
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Note added at 2 hrs 4 mins (2004-04-25 00:10:23 GMT)
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as already mentioned, it refers to passenger enplanement for a matter of taxation which is done on a yearly basis. Also, giving a monthly estimated would not cover the heavy variations between slow months and hectic months.
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Note added at 2 hrs 9 mins (2004-04-25 00:15:42 GMT)
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a. Commercial Service Airports are publicly owned airports that have at least 2,500 passenger boardings each calendar year and receive scheduled passenger service. Passenger boardings refer to revenue passenger boardings on an aircraft in service in air commerce whether or not in scheduled service. The definition also includes passengers who continue on an aircraft in international flight that stops at an airport in any of the 50 States for a non-traffic purpose, such as refueling or aircraft maintenance rather than passenger activity. Passenger boardings at airports that receive scheduled passenger service are also referred to as Enplanements.
http://www.faa.gov/arp/planning/stats/index.cfm
Peer comment(s):
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Alexander Demyanov
: Your 1st link reads: The Table Below Provides Information on Enplanements (Passenger Boardings) at Commercial Airports for the Years 1994 - 2001. I regard your "disagree" for my suggestion as competely groundless
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agree |
Vicky Papaprodromou
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cheers Vicky
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400 million passenges boarding planes over each year
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Note added at 2 hrs 46 mins (2004-04-25 00:52:42 GMT)
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Hacene: please drop it already.
There is a definition in the asker\'s question.
There is a definition in the 1st line at your own 1st link.
Remember? It says Enplanements (Passenger Boardings)
Remember now?
Hacene, please explain your choice of words in your last comment.
What are the functions of each of the words in the sentence?
Do you know any synonyms for these words? Please name them and explain
the differences in the usage of different synonyms. I will return your paper graded next week.
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Hacene: please drop it already.
There is a definition in the asker\'s question.
There is a definition in the 1st line at your own 1st link.
Remember? It says Enplanements (Passenger Boardings)
Remember now?
Hacene, please explain your choice of words in your last comment.
What are the functions of each of the words in the sentence?
Do you know any synonyms for these words? Please name them and explain
the differences in the usage of different synonyms. I will return your paper graded next week.
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Hacene
: could you define enplanement, provide a reference and explain why they use this word in this context?
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And that's why it says "400 million passenger"? ||| Did you read your 1st link yourself? "The Table Below Provides Information on Enplanements (Passenger Boardings) at Commercial Airports for the Years 1994 - 2001"
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3 hrs
240 million passenger, and the rest - cargo emplanements
240 million would be passenger emplanements, and 160 (400 - 240) million freight and mail emplanements.
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
ohemulen
: The asker's text refers to passenger enplanements.
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Kristina > True, but the asker also seeks clarification on the arithmetic. :-)
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2 hrs
arirtmetics is correct!
Example of a passenger travelling from Minneapolis (Minneapolis St-Paul International airport) to Miami (Miami International airport). Both airports have CNN Network.
Direct non-stop flight Minneapolis - Miami will make 1 passenger = 1 enplanement.
Flight Minneapolis - St Lois - Miami will make 1 passenger = 2 enplanements.
This is where the difference comes from!
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Note added at 2 hrs 53 mins (2004-04-25 00:59:26 GMT)
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St Louis also has CNN network.
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Note added at 15 hrs 21 mins (2004-04-25 13:27:27 GMT)
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ARITHMETIC, sorry
Direct non-stop flight Minneapolis - Miami will make 1 passenger = 1 enplanement.
Flight Minneapolis - St Lois - Miami will make 1 passenger = 2 enplanements.
This is where the difference comes from!
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Note added at 2 hrs 53 mins (2004-04-25 00:59:26 GMT)
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St Louis also has CNN network.
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Note added at 15 hrs 21 mins (2004-04-25 13:27:27 GMT)
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ARITHMETIC, sorry
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Melanie Nassar
: yes, some passengers require multiple emplanements
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agree |
Catherine Bolton
: This certainly sounds logical. The same passenger enplanes more than once.
8 hrs
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agree |
David Moore (X)
: I think "air-ithmetic" sounded much better for this one! Yes, I think you're on the right track too.
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agree |
Charlesp
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