French term
Croatia
Precise and swift.
Native in: Italian 
Works in: German to Italian, English to Italian, French to Italian, and 20 more.
Séjour Alpinisme
Une fois de plus, nous concevrons le séjour avec vous afin de répondre au mieux à vos envies ! Stage aussi pour enfants et club.
Oct 10, 2022 22:30: writeaway changed "Field" from "Social Sciences" to "Other"
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Proposed translations
United Kingdom
Sensible solutions
Native in: English (Variant: Wessexois)
Works in: French to English, English, English to French
Alpine climbing/moutaineering holidays
As this is a heading I think the plural is needed
Alpine Mountaineering Holidays
https://www.alpine-guides.com › alpine-mountaineering...
Climbing holidays alps from www.alpine-guides.com
Alpine Mountaineering Holidays · Summer Haute Route Trek · Swiss 4000m Classics · Italian 4000m Peaks Traverse · Chamonix Alpinist Week · Ice and Mixed Climbing Week ...
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My logic is that if you "stay" somewhere for leisure, it is usually a holiday
"Vacation" obviously cross-pond
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Samuël Buysschaert
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Daryo
: No, I'm afraid // "climbing" is for people who have skills not required for simply "walking a trail / trekking" // You want to attract clients, not scare them away - this risks putting off potential clients **if** all that is on offer is "trekking".
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"Alpinisme" doesn't mean leisurely chalet holidays, it's about climbing; see reference to "glaciers du Rosa" - this is no gentle, green meadow with an ordinary hilking path
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Cristina Bufi Poecksteiner, M.A.
: Alpinisme is not about climbing. Example: personally, I like "Alpinisme", preferably 2000 m a.s.l. That's were I've learned to make my first steps as a kid. And I feel very comfortable in a pair of mountain boots. But I'm not interested in climbing.
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writeaway
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abe(L)solano
1 day 10 hrs
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FPC
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United Kingdom
French-English translation and subtitles
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, English
Mountaineering retreat
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Thomas Miles
: I feel 'retreat' has strong connotations that are not applicable to the activities proposed here!
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Daryo
: outdoor wilderness = retreat ? // Kind of, but too ambiguous & stretching the meaning of "retreat" a bit to far?
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AllegroTrans
: I wouldn't call this activity a "retreat"
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Cristina Bufi Poecksteiner, M.A.
BDÜ Law Marketing Med Techn - since 1990
Native in: Italian
Works in: German to Italian, English to Italian, French to Italian, and 11 more.
Alpine Trails, Alpine Glacier Trekking (Adventure) (Holiday)
- Alpine Trails Adventure
- Alpine Trails Adventure Holiday
- Alpine Trails Holiday
- Alpine Trails Trekking
- Alpine Trails Trekking Adventure
- Alpine Trails Trekking Holiday
- Alpine Trails Trekking Adventure Holiday
- Alpine Glacier Trekking
- Alpine Glacier Trekking Adventure
- Alpine Glacier Trekking Holiday
- Alpine Glacier Trekking Adventure Holiday
Asker's Context
Séjour Alpinisme
Les sommets et les itinéraires d'alpinisme à faire en Italie sont divers. On vous propose un parcours d'approche adapté à vos objectifs sur les glaciers du Rosa ou du Cervin ou dans les Dolomites.
Alpine Glacier Trekking
Glacier trekking is the ideal adventure holiday for people who are looking for something that bit different. Whilst it is the perfect step up for regular walkers, no previous experience is necessary.
Alpine trails are not all equal. Alpine trails incorporating trekking over a glacier offer an opportunity to explore a unique environment and achieve something over and above the norm. Completing a glacier trail is a real achievement! Take the Haute Route trail in the summer, for example: you can complete the Haute Route trail in the normal way on lower level paths or you can gain altitude with our guides and experience the trail as a stunning wilderness, far from the madding crowds.
Glacier trails cross terrain that you simply won't experience anywhere else. Often you will you get the chance to get up close to stunning ice formations and crevasses within glaciated environments, and the mountain views are quite unlike anything you'll see elsewhere! Of course, getting to and from the glaciers includes travelling through more traditional alpine environments too, so the trips offer a true all-round experience.
Mountain guides are the only mountain professionals able to guide you on an alpine trek crossing a glacier. Mountain Tracks runs guided glacier trekking adventure holidays in the Alps from several locations, each offering a different experience.
https://www.mountaintracks.co.uk/trek/alpine-glacier-trekkin...
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Daryo
: If that's the Asker's Context // I like mountains too.
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Thanks. Personally, I like "Alpinisme", preferably 2000 m a.s.l. That's were I've learned to make my first steps as a kid. And I feel very comfortable in a pair of mountain boots. But I'm not interested in climbing.
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Anastasia Kalantzi
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www.lingocraft.co.uk
Native in: English (Variants: British, Scottish, Irish, Singaporean, UK, South African)
Works in: French to English, Italian to English, Romanian to English, and 2 more.
Alpine Holiday(s)
"ALPINE HOLIDAY specialist Ski Total has become the first UK site of its kind to offer online bookings...."
"Alpine Summer Holidays ... If you fancy something fresh and exciting for your friends and family..."
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Thomas Miles
: Sounds a little tame for the activities the advert is proposing!
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But we are discussing this specific term, which is also a little tame in the source text!
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Daryo
: Unless we get more information about the ST this is the safest bet.// "Alpine" = being in the Alps - nothing more specific.
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AllegroTrans
: "Alpinisme" doesn't simply mean holidaying in the Alps//if you read the piece, it's about summits and glaciers, not sightesseing
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Of course it includes those things, but we are using English language in the context of holidays. When we use Alpine in English (not in French), it is normally understood that we are talking about all the activities that come with it.
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Cristina Bufi Poecksteiner, M.A.
: Alpinisme is not just Alpin. "Séjour Alpinisme" is more than "Séjour Alpin" ("Alpine Holiday"). Therefore, it's more than "holidaying in the Alps"
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Of course not, but in English an "alpine holiday" has the same generality as "sejour", which is all title is stating at this point.! // We are dealing with contextual usage here, as much as literal meaning. When was last time you browsed GB tourist ads?
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AllegroTrans
: This is not refined, it's simply bad use of English and sounds like tranlationese
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United States
Fashion, travel, marketing
Native in: English (Variant: US) 
Works in: French to English
Mountaineering Trip
https://www.steliasguides.com/trips/alaska-mountaineering/
https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/how-to-plan-a-mountaineering-trip.html
Discussion
..... I also do not understand why you regard usage as a "statistic", when it is an important issue considered by many translators in their work. My comment on the term I suggested was simply stating my observation on the regularity of its use - that is not "translation statistics", but is rather "reader experience" and "translation experience"!
.....I have actually found (and read in the past) many Ghits from holiday websites/blogs using the term I suggested. If you have a problem with that, I suggest you contact those websites yourself to complain. I can let you know where to find them if it helps.
.....With regard to "you don't give the impression of being....", please clarify how this concerns the term we are discussing.
If no further context becomes available "high mountain adventure holidays/vacations" sounds like a possible solution.
L’alpinisme est une pratique sportive consistant à effectuer des ascensions en haute montagne
So if it's totally impossible to know what is on offer maybe fudge it with something like "high mountain adventure holidays/vacations"
Unfortunately, the only person "dissecting at length", as you say, seems to be you in this case.
As for
"when browsing holiday websites this is the language that is used, i.e. hot words do not always match text book definitions."
that's a very shaky argument.
You can find plenty of articles written by people, some even calling themselves "experts", who have no idea what's the difference between a "percentage" and a "percentage point" or who think that a 25% increase in price can be rolled back by a 25% reduction of the new price.
Should that be a reason to make the same mistakes?
"Yet, the Alps dominate our concept of mountain ranges and mountain culture to the point that the adjective “Alpine” — meaning Alps-like — is used to describe mountain scenery, SPORTS and EXPERIENCES the world over...."
https://www.today.com/news/you-cant-spell-alpine-without-alp...
...... basically I am just saying that while, technically speaking, there is a difference, when browsing holiday websites this is the language that is used, i.e. hot words do not always match text book definitions.
For people grown up and/or living in countries with Alpine Regions and Landscapes, there is a big difference between Alpine vs Alpinism. In every language, not only in French and/or English. And I know people in England, who know the difference: Alpine vs Alpinism.
There are companies that organise "trekking" on approach routes - and nothing more. Anyone reasonably fit can do it.
There is a far smaller number of companies that deal only with climbers that organise "climbing" to summits of various level of difficulties. These companies wouldn't bother with mentioning "trekking" in their marketing as for them it's only a preliminary to the main thing.
Short version: it's extremely unlikely that there is any "climbing" on offer in this ST - only "trekking".
As you can see, "alpinisme" (climbing) is far more demanding than "randonnée pédestre" (trekking) - far riskier and requires specific technical knowledge. These are two different "market segments" - you can't conflate them.
If it's advertised to the general public "guided high mountain walks" (trekking) is probably all that is on the menu.
The reference found by Cristina sounds very plausible, but a confirmation would be nice.
(Fédération internationale)
https://uia.org/s/or/en/1100008446
alpinisme, n.m.
Domaine : SPORTS / Alpinisme
Équivalent étranger : alpinism (en), mountaineering (en)
http://www.culture.fr/franceterme/terme/SPOR172
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Mountaineering Tourism: A Critical Perspective
Michal Apollo, Yana Wengel
L'alpinisme fait usage de techniques spécifiques et de savoir-faire qui permettent au pratiquant d'appréhender les risques inhérents à l'altitude et au milieu hostile dans lequel il évolue, qui se distingue ainsi du terrain habituel de la randonnée pédestre.
Staying in the same place and doing daytime trips in the surrounding mountains or bivouacking every nigh in a different place (which would be of interest for an entirely different type of clients)? I wouldn't use the same term for both.
What kind of activities are involved?