May 31, 2023 14:11
12 mos ago
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English term
uses their results to trump the Word of God
English
Art/Literary
Religion
Creationism
XXX is a Christian professor who works in a Seminary.
In an article, XXX writes:
Dating methods, in my view, provide strong evidence for rejecting this face-value chronological reading of Genesis 4–11.
It really comes down to the fact that XXX accepts the fallible secular dating methods (based on numerous fallible assumptions) and ***uses their results to trump the Word of God***! That is the problem with the Church — accepting man’s words over God’s words. Yes, it is a battle over authority. Who is the ultimate authority — God or man?
In an article, XXX writes:
Dating methods, in my view, provide strong evidence for rejecting this face-value chronological reading of Genesis 4–11.
It really comes down to the fact that XXX accepts the fallible secular dating methods (based on numerous fallible assumptions) and ***uses their results to trump the Word of God***! That is the problem with the Church — accepting man’s words over God’s words. Yes, it is a battle over authority. Who is the ultimate authority — God or man?
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Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
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English
Works in field
Ireland
right word, right place. everytime
Native in: English (Variants: US, Canadian, Irish, UK) 
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English, English, and 1 more.
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claim secular results beat the Word of God
"XXX accepts the fallible secular dating methods" so is accepting the word of man (secular/science) and is claiming these results mean that the "face-value chronological reading of Genesis 4–11" should be rejected.
A trump is a winning card in a card game and beats/trumps all other cards
Thus these results (science/secular/man) trumps/beats the Word of God
The writer seems to believe that science or secular readings are faulty as they are "based on numerous fallible assumptions" and that the Word of God should be uppermost and superior
("That is the problem with the Church — accepting man’s words over God’s words. Yes, it is a battle over authority. Who is the ultimate authority — God or man?")
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A trump is a winning card in a card game and beats/trumps all other cards
Thus these results (science/secular/man) trumps/beats the Word of God
The writer seems to believe that science or secular readings are faulty as they are "based on numerous fallible assumptions" and that the Word of God should be uppermost and superior
("That is the problem with the Church — accepting man’s words over God’s words. Yes, it is a battle over authority. Who is the ultimate authority — God or man?")
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Note added at 5 days (2023-06-06 11:06:57 GMT) Post-grading
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Philippe ROUSSEAU
France
France
France
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Native in: French (Variant: Standard-France)
Works in: English to French, Tagalog to French, Latin to French, and 3 more.
To twist the word of God
The purpose is to discredit God's word . To reach this purpse, xxx d'élèves listées by twisting God's Word meaning
Peer comment(s):
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Domini Lucas
: So sorry to disagree, but I don't think this means twisting the meaning of God's word. It cites authority as the issue, even if it does suggest that its authority may seem discredited. To my mind twisting suggests its meaning is distorted and changed.
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Christopher Schröder
: Trump means beat, not twist
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Yvonne Gallagher
: "trump" does not mean "twist"
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AllegroTrans
: "trump" does not mean "twist"
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Domini Lucas
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
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English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
Academic and Literary Translator
Native in: English (Variant: British)
Works in: Spanish to English, Greek to English
exceed the authority of the word of God
I think it means to have more importance or power than as in the dictionary link https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/trump, though that wording does not flow well in context. But if you are still looking for a better understanding of your source text, then this is the meaning. In context, it would be better as to have more authority than, except that repeats authority multiple times, so that may need reworking when you translate it.
The clue is in the rest of the text as Yvonne has also pointed out. Who is the ultimate authority — God or man?
This link https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/... sums up what is meant doctrinally by the authority of Scripture:
The authority of Scripture means every word and stroke of the Bible possesses the authority of God and the right to rule the hearts, minds, and bodies of every inhabitant of the earth. Scripture’s authority doesn’t depend on whether mankind cooperates with it or understands it. Its authority depends on the power and supremacy of its Author—God. Scripture is God-breathed (2 Timothy 3:16), which means Scripture is God speaking and thus has the final say in all matters—whether we choose to submit to it or not. ... Whatever authority a government—or speed limit sign—may wield, Scripture’s authority exceeds it.
The clue is in the rest of the text as Yvonne has also pointed out. Who is the ultimate authority — God or man?
This link https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/... sums up what is meant doctrinally by the authority of Scripture:
The authority of Scripture means every word and stroke of the Bible possesses the authority of God and the right to rule the hearts, minds, and bodies of every inhabitant of the earth. Scripture’s authority doesn’t depend on whether mankind cooperates with it or understands it. Its authority depends on the power and supremacy of its Author—God. Scripture is God-breathed (2 Timothy 3:16), which means Scripture is God speaking and thus has the final say in all matters—whether we choose to submit to it or not. ... Whatever authority a government—or speed limit sign—may wield, Scripture’s authority exceeds it.
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Yvonne Gallagher
: "trump" does not quite mean "exceed"
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No it doesn't, other than it is used in this context. I do agree with you that the author's word is stronger. My understanding is that Ana is looking to unpick the English meaning in its context too, hence my posting the words that might normally be used.
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