Nov 13, 2023 16:07
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French term
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Native in: English (Variants: British, UK, US, Australian, Canadian, New Zealand) 
Works in: French to English
bénéfice des domaines
French to English
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Education / Pedagogy
relevé de notes
Hi,
I am currently translating a transcript for the "brevet d'études professionnelles" and at the bottom of the page I have the following sentence:
"le candidat refusé peut conserver pendant 5 ans à compter du la session d'obtention le bénéfice des domaines et/ou des épreuves constitutives du domaine professionnel"
I am confused about what this "bénéfice" is?
Thanks for your help
Joanna
I am currently translating a transcript for the "brevet d'études professionnelles" and at the bottom of the page I have the following sentence:
"le candidat refusé peut conserver pendant 5 ans à compter du la session d'obtention le bénéfice des domaines et/ou des épreuves constitutives du domaine professionnel"
I am confused about what this "bénéfice" is?
Thanks for your help
Joanna
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +1 | carry forward (course marks awarded previously) |
ph-b (X)
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| 3 | credit for academic-cum-vocational subject-areas |
Adrian MM.
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Proposed translations
+1
18 hrs
Selected
carry forward (course marks awarded previously)
Re: "I am confused about what this "bénéfice" is?"
Avantage que procure une personne ou une chose.
https://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/bénéfice
In other words, bénéfice means here that students can keep (conserver) for later the rights granted by marks obtained in a previous exam session.
These Canadian sources use "carry forward" in a similar context:
"Marks from a previous paper, on which a grade of 60 marks (60%) or more was achieved, may carry that mark forward to this year."
https://cpata-cabamc.ca/en/become-an-agent/scoring-results-a...
(The French version says reporter, which to me means the same as conserver le bénéfice de)
"If you fail a first-year Science course but complete all of the laboratory work and obtain a passing grade in the lab, you may apply for a carry-forward using the Application for a Laboratory Carry-Forward Form."
https://science.ontariotechu.ca/undergraduate/academic-advis...
Suggestion:
le candidat... peut conserver pendant 5 ans à compter de... le bénéfice des...
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"the candidate... may carry forward over a 5-year period from... the marks/results achieved/awarded in..." ?
(Note: this is an extended version of my discussion post yesterday, which I decided to turn into a "proper" answer since there has been no other suggestion yet.)
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Note added at 18 hrs (2023-11-14 10:17:28 GMT)
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Sorry about those mad italics!
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Note added at 19 hrs (2023-11-14 11:15:45 GMT)
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Copying the links again:
https://cpata-cabamc.ca/en/become-an-agent/scoring-results-a...
https://science.ontariotechu.ca/undergraduate/academic-advis...
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Note added at 22 hrs (2023-11-14 14:56:09 GMT)
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Re Adrian's comment on my missing an aspect of the question.
I'm not aware that I did - that aspect is covered by "course marks" in my mind (what is a course, if not a group of subjects?) and my explanation notes. But I'm happy to replace "course" by "subject" if that makes it more complete/clear.
In any case, I meant to answer Joanna's specific question about bénéfice in this context ("I am confused about what this "bénéfice" is?"). Her question doesn't refer to any "professional" or "general" subject.
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Adrian MM.
: Excuse me, Philippe, (I will not say sorry, even though in England) but you cannot just blithely ignore the crucial 'domaines' aspect.
3 hrs
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| agree |
Bourth
: Indeed, feel no compulsion to 'translate the words'.
4 hrs
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| agree |
Andrew Bramhall
1 day 12 hrs
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| neutral |
AllegroTrans
: Why is ph-b suddenly ph-b(X)?
87 days
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks!"
21 hrs
Adrian MM.
Austria
Austria
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Retd.T&I, Barrister & Austro-Advokat
Native in: English (Variants: British, Scottish)
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 5 more.
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8
credit for academic-cum-vocational subject-areas
Don't forget the domaines ! For a change, doesn't mean 'estates', but *overlapping* academic and prof. subject-areas e.g. my UK-qualified chartered-accountant school friend in Vancouver, BC, requalified in the allied area (domaine) of insolvency practice.
Tried in vain to post this 2 hours ago.
Tried in vain to post this 2 hours ago.
Example sentence:
Programmes et domaines d’études au Canada
Plusieurs programmes permettent aux étudiants de choisir un domaine principal d’études ou une spécialisation plus tard dans le programme- ceci est particulièrement vrai pour les programmes de baccalauréat, dans lesquels un étudiant peut choisir u
Reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Canada
http://www.canadavisa.com/fr/programs-and-areas-of-study.html#Cours%20et%20Crédits
Reference comments
38 mins
Reference:
any use?
Conservation des notes / Validation Blocs de compétences
cfaducomminges.fr
https://www.cfaducomminges.fr › c...
****Le bénéfice de la note obtenue*** par épreuve si celle-ci est égale ou supérieure à 10/20.. Conservation de notes Bac Pro. Les candidats inscrits peuvent ...
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Note added at 43 Min. (2023-11-13 16:50:43 GMT)
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domaines = courses?
general courses
BTS : bénéfice de notes et dispense d'évaluations au Cned
cned.fr
https://www.cned.fr › bts-benefice-...
11 Oct 2023 — La demande de conservation des notes (ou bénéfice de notes) s'effectue auprès des services du rectorat au moment de l'inscription à l'examen.
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Note added at 47 Min. (2023-11-13 16:55:13 GMT)
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Lorsqu’un candidat échoue au baccalauréat général et technologique et souhaite se représenter à l’examen, il peut bénéficier de la conservation de certaines des notes qu’il a obtenues lors de sa première passation, et ainsi être dispensé d’être à nouveau évalué dans les enseignements concernés. Selon qu’il s’agit de notes d’épreuves terminales ou de notes relevant du contrôle continu, les règles relatives à cette conservation diffèrent.
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Note added at 52 Min. (2023-11-13 16:59:52 GMT)
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retention of marks (in previous examination)?
cfaducomminges.fr
https://www.cfaducomminges.fr › c...
****Le bénéfice de la note obtenue*** par épreuve si celle-ci est égale ou supérieure à 10/20.. Conservation de notes Bac Pro. Les candidats inscrits peuvent ...
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Note added at 43 Min. (2023-11-13 16:50:43 GMT)
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domaines = courses?
general courses
BTS : bénéfice de notes et dispense d'évaluations au Cned
cned.fr
https://www.cned.fr › bts-benefice-...
11 Oct 2023 — La demande de conservation des notes (ou bénéfice de notes) s'effectue auprès des services du rectorat au moment de l'inscription à l'examen.
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Note added at 47 Min. (2023-11-13 16:55:13 GMT)
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Lorsqu’un candidat échoue au baccalauréat général et technologique et souhaite se représenter à l’examen, il peut bénéficier de la conservation de certaines des notes qu’il a obtenues lors de sa première passation, et ainsi être dispensé d’être à nouveau évalué dans les enseignements concernés. Selon qu’il s’agit de notes d’épreuves terminales ou de notes relevant du contrôle continu, les règles relatives à cette conservation diffèrent.
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Note added at 52 Min. (2023-11-13 16:59:52 GMT)
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retention of marks (in previous examination)?
Note from asker:
| Thanks Liz! |
Discussion
:-)
Bénéfice des domaines , cf. Article 7
Domaine vs. Épreuve ( contexte BEP )
https://www.education.gouv.fr/botexte/bo010426/MENE0100828C....