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outside raters (in this context)

Spanish translation: observadores externos/ajenos al tema/no involucrados en el tratamiento

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English term or phrase:outside raters (in this context)
Spanish translation:observadores externos/ajenos al tema/no involucrados en el tratamiento
Entered by: MikeGarcia

20:54 Sep 5, 2002
English to Spanish translations [PRO]
Psychology / psychology
English term or phrase: outside raters (in this context)
subject: patients which the so called "optimistic explanatory style"

Context:
"they tend to perceive that they already possess or have improved their skills in that area through practice, even when *outside raters* believe that skills remain unchanged, unimproved"
Question:
What I do not tend to perceive is whether those *outside raters* are doctors, normal people or what...
What do you think?

Can anyone help me pls?
kirchner
Spain
Local time: 06:04
observadores externos/ajenos al tema/no involucrados en el tratamiento
Explanation:
Spanish terms which comprise both the possibility of them being profesionals, or not.

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Note added at 2002-09-05 22:53:07 (GMT)
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Typo:\"professionals\".Sorry.-
Selected response from:

MikeGarcia
Spain
Local time: 06:04
Grading comment
that was it!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
5 +1physicians, neuropsychologists or other rehabilitation professionals
Judith Kerman
4 +2observadores externos/ajenos al tema/no involucrados en el tratamiento
MikeGarcia
4 +1evaluadores externos
Herman Vilella
4Mi impresión
Claudia Iglesias


  

Answers


14 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +1
physicians, neuropsychologists or other rehabilitation professionals


Explanation:
Almost certainly "outside raters" are professionals who are "outside" because they are not involved in the patient's care (and thus have no vested interest in the answer). They would be asked to rate the performance improvement of people who are receiving rehabilitation or treatment for some type of disability, to see whether they really have improved or are being "optimistic"

Judith Kerman

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  MikeGarcia: But in spanish or not ?
3 mins
  -> I guess I'd render it as "profesionales independientes" but there's probably something better.
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19 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
observadores externos/ajenos al tema/no involucrados en el tratamiento


Explanation:
Spanish terms which comprise both the possibility of them being profesionals, or not.

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Note added at 2002-09-05 22:53:07 (GMT)
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Typo:\"professionals\".Sorry.-

MikeGarcia
Spain
Local time: 06:04
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
that was it!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Judith Kerman: I guess this works best
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Judith.-
agree  Mariana Solanet: observadores es exacto.
1 hr
  -> Gracias,Mariana.-
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37 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
Mi impresión


Explanation:
es que conozco a gente de este tipo, pero no sabía que correspondían a un patrón.
Tengo un amigo que está convencido que en una semana de vacaciones en Turquía aprendió turco, en 15 días en Marruecos, hablaba árabe y así con el español y todos los idiomas. Pretende incluso enseñarlos a sus hijos. Yo no necesito saber turco o árabe (que algo sé y eso que lo estudié 6 años) para ser un "outside rater". Me basta con haber oído su español para saber (ahora sé que se llaman así) que es un "optimistic explanatory style"

My two cents como dicen uds.

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Note added at 2002-09-05 21:35:06 (GMT)
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y en español diría \"estimación o evaluación externa\"

Claudia Iglesias
Chile
Local time: 00:04
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench, Native in SpanishSpanish
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
evaluadores externos


Explanation:
other than in-house raters

Herman Vilella
Local time: 06:04
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Lila del Cerro
3 hrs
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