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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

Essais de fumage HP ET

English translation:

smoking tests (HP ET)

Added to glossary by Hermien Desaivre
Mar 16, 2023 16:14
1 yr ago
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French term

Essais de fumage HP ET

French to English Science Chemistry; Chem Sci/Eng Test standards for accreditation of a laboratory
According to French standard NF ISO 8243

Essais de fumage (HP ET)
* Analyses physico-chimiques (HP ET)

I cannot find a full text of this standard in English - it is all extracts with full access paid.

I am also not at all sure under which field I should post this question.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +1 smoking tests (HP ET)
3 Smoke sampling HP ET

Discussion

Charles R. Mar 17, 2023:
@ Samuël Ça tient la route ma foi ! Je n'ai pas fait de recherche mais ce que vous proposez est convaincant et mériterait une réponse.
Hermien Desaivre (asker) Mar 17, 2023:
@Samuël Buysschaert This makes a lot of sense to me. I will see what client feedback is and let you know. Thank you.
Hermien Desaivre (asker) Mar 17, 2023:
@phil goddard Thank you :-)
Samuël Buysschaert Mar 16, 2023:
HTH/Fwiw Il semblerait que "HP" signifie "Hors-Programme" dans le cadre des programmes d'accréditation du Cofrac.
L'élément suivant HP est ce qui semblerait être le domaine ou sous-domaine d'application pour les essais/tests/analyses.

CHIM pour domaine CHIMIE, ET pour domaine ou sous-domaine ?
Par exemple:
DM = Dispositifs médicaux
ATI= Appareils de traitement de l’information
...

Exemples:
https://tools.cofrac.fr/annexes/sect1/1-1916.pdf (p.8)
https://tools.cofrac.fr/annexes/sect1/1-2078.pdf (p.6)

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Je pense que ET pourrait vouloir dire écotoxicologie.
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philgoddard Mar 16, 2023:
The additional context was for other people's benefit, rather than yours :-)
Hermien Desaivre (asker) Mar 16, 2023:
@phil goddard Yes, but the HP ET and HP CHIM has me floored
Hermien Desaivre (asker) Mar 16, 2023:
Another clue for HP in the same doc: SECURITE / APPAREILS DE DETECTION DE GAZ / Essais de performance ou d’aptitude à la fonction (HP CHIM)
philgoddard Mar 16, 2023:
This is about testing tobacco smoke. If I understand correctly, it's done by a machine that smokes the cigarette or other product.
Hermien Desaivre (asker) Mar 16, 2023:
HP ET Sorry, brain is working overtime. I am actually looking for the HP ET part of this. Just thought to put the whole thing there in case it has a specific translation as a term, all together.

Proposed translations

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18 hrs
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smoking tests (HP ET)

What HP stands for is anyone's guess. It is used for a variety of test procedures.
HP ENV is obviously environnementale
HP AA would appear to be agro-alimentaire
HP CHIM = chimie

And it looks as if HP ET is corps étrangers (I mean, the last thing anyone wants in their tobacco is a stray bit of cannabis resin):

Caractérisation des corps étrangers dans des composants électroniques, produits agroalimentaires, cosmétiques et pharmaceutiques (HP ET)
https://www.analyses-surface.com/IMG/pdf/Accreditation_Cofra...

Caractérisation de corps étrangers (HP ET)
https://tools.cofrac.fr/annexes/sect1/1-1720.pdf

It might be necessary to contact COFRAC if the meaning of HP is needed, but it's obviously a code and I think it can be left as such, though the ET bit could be explained parenthetically.



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Note added at 19 hrs (2023-03-17 11:28:18 GMT)
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It's counterintuitive to have a programme or test procedure or protocol that is hors programme, but hors programme is what HP seems to mean.

Les programmes ou « hors programmes » relatifs aux essais des matériaux métalliques ont été abrogés
https://tools.cofrac.fr/documentation/lab-gta-16

Le laboratoire EXCELL est accrédité par le COFRAC pour différents types de mesures dans le cadre de programmes d’accréditation classiques ou hors programmes ainsi qu’une accréditation à portée flexible pour le développement et la validation de nouvelles techniques d’analyses.
https://www.vinseo.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/C2-Excell-...

Et des analyses dérivées, domaines connexes ou "Hors- Programmes" (HP)
https://docplayer.fr/11959590-Accreditation-des-laboratoires...

Environnement extérieur (hors-programme HP ENV)
https://www.eurofins.fr/amiante/qualité/accréditations-cofra...
Peer comment(s):
agree philgoddard
2 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you! Although my question was about "HP ET", I thought to leave the entire term in the gloss for proper reference. Please call a moderator to the question if you think it should be different."
7 mins

Smoke sampling HP ET

Will try to find HP ET

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Note added at 10 mins (2023-03-16 16:24:12 GMT)
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HP hazardous Properties perhaps.

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Note added at 42 mins (2023-03-16 16:56:29 GMT)
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ET Exposure Time perhaps.
Note from asker:
HI there yes HP ET is actually what I am looking for, thanks.
Peer comment(s):
neutral Bourth : The standard is indeed about sampling, but 'fumage' suggests an analytical smoking machine, ISO 20778.
6 hrs
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