Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

Immobilisation du matériel et du personnel pour des faits indépendants de X à la fin de la 2ème heure d'arrêt

English translation:

equipment and personnel downtime due to events independent of X as of the second hour of stoppage

Added to glossary by Yolanda Broad
Jan 4, 2003 20:48
21 yrs ago
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French term

immobilisation du matériel et du personnel

French to English Bus/Financial Construction / Civil Engineering
Immobilisation du matériel et du personnel pour des faits indépendants de X à la fin de la 2ième heure d'arrêt.

In the proposal for a construction project, under the heading "Services Provided by X". I can't quite relate the different elements of the sentence to get the exact sense of it.
Change log

Mar 24, 2011 12:26: Stéphanie Soudais changed "Term asked" from "sentence" to "immobilisation du matériel et du personnel" , "Field" from "Tech/Engineering" to "Bus/Financial" , "Field (write-in)" from "construction" to "(none)"

Proposed translations

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6 hrs
Selected

Personnel & equipment downtime exceeding 2 hrs

...beyond X's control.

It smells like one party to the contract has to cover the cost of the first two hours of any downtime - after that the costs are billable to the other party.
Peer comment(s):

agree nordine
9 hrs
agree Jane Lamb-Ruiz (X)
12 hrs
agree lien : yes
12 hrs
neutral Peter McCavana : Your analysis may be correct. Or maybe the first two hours of any downtime (or idle time) are payable at a certain rate, and any subsequent hours are payable at another rate?
17 hrs
Yes of course. Thanx for the reminder! Happy New Year!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks, I think you're right as there is another incomplete sentence about 'stand-by' time in the same paragraph. Thanks also for Peter's contribution."
+1
15 mins

Laying off of equipement or personnel for reasons

independant fron X's will after the second hour of stoppage.

You get the idea.
Peer comment(s):

agree Louise Dupont (X)
16 mins
Merci.
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+1
35 mins

the immobilization of material and personel for independent reasons

Meaning to stop everything both material and staff or personel for some independent resons of X at the end of the 2nd hour of stoppage.
Peer comment(s):

agree NancyLynn
10 mins
Thank You and Happy New Year!
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2 hrs

Idle time of eqpt & personnel for reasons beyond X's control at the end of the 2nd hour of stoppage

I had to abbreviate the above answer due to lack of space, so here's the complete version:
Idle time of equipment and personnel for reasons beyond X's control at the end of the second hour of stoppage.

OTHER POSSIBLE VARIANTS:
Idle time (OR Downtime) of equipment and personnel for reasons beyond X's control at the end of (OR after) the second hour of stoppage.
OR
Idle time (OR Downtime) of equipment and personnel for reasons beyond X's control at the end of (OR after) the second hour of shutdown.
OR
Idle time of equipment and personnel for reasons beyond X's control at the end of (OR after) the second hour of downtime.

Idle time would refer to a period during which work is not possible (for reason's beyond X's control) and for which payment is required.
On the other hand, stoppage would refer to the overall length of time of during which work is stopped, and would include the payable idle time.
Payment for idle time may also be called "demurrage" in certain cases.

NB:
Downtime: A period during which an earth-moving machine [or other machine] is not available because of breakdown, refuelling or maintenance. [from Scott's Building Dict., Penguin]

It's hard to know exactly what is meant by "à la fin de la 2ième heure d'arrêt": at the end of the 2nd hour of stoppage, or _after_ the 2nd hour of stoppage? It all depends on the full context...
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3 hrs

Idle time of eqpt & personnel for reasons beyond X's control at the end of the 2nd hour of stoppage

I had to abbreviate the above answer due to lack of space, so here's the complete version:
Idle time of equipment and personnel for reasons beyond X's control at the end of the second hour of stoppage.

OTHER POSSIBLE VARIANTS:
Idle time (OR Downtime) of equipment and personnel for reasons beyond X's control at the end of (OR after) the second hour of stoppage.
OR
Idle time (OR Downtime) of equipment and personnel for reasons beyond X's control at the end of (OR after) the second hour of shutdown.
OR
Idle time of equipment and personnel for reasons beyond X's control at the end of (OR after) the second hour of downtime.

Idle time would refer to a period during which work is not possible (for reason's beyond X's control) and for which payment is required.
On the other hand, stoppage would refer to the overall length of time of during which work is stopped, and would include the payable idle time.
Payment for idle time may also be called "demurrage" in certain cases.

NB:
Downtime: A period during which an earth-moving machine [or other machine] is not available because of breakdown, refuelling or maintenance. [from Scott's Building Dict., Penguin]

It's hard to know exactly what is meant by "à la fin de la 2ième heure d'arrêt": at the end of the 2nd hour of stoppage, or _after_ the 2nd hour of stoppage? It all depends on the full context...


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Note added at 2003-01-05 00:01:03 (GMT)
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OOPS!
Sorry, I\'ve sent the same thing twice by mistake!
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3 hrs

Idle time of eqpt & personnel for reasons beyond X's control after the second hour of stoppage.

NB: I already sent a complete answer to this, with a lot of notes, but I sent it twice by mistake, and now it seems to have disappeared altogether!...
Anyway, here are possible variants:

Idle time of equipment and personnel for reasons beyond X's control after the second hour of stoppage.
OR
Idle time (OR Downtime) of equipment and personnel for reasons beyond X's control after (OR at the end of) the second hour of stoppage.
OR
Idle time (OR Downtime) of equipment and personnel for reasons beyond X's control after (OR at the end of) the second hour of shutdown.

Note:
Idle time would be unworked time for which contractor X expects to be paid, since the stoppage is caused by factors that are beyond X's control.


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Note added at 2003-01-05 00:21:58 (GMT)
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OOOOPS (again)!
I don\'t know what\'s going on, but the two copies of my previous answer have reappeared!
Sorry for any inconvenience or confusion!
Peer comment(s):

neutral Arthur Borges : When you look up any suggestion you've made, you should have a button enabling you to "hide" one the answers. Speaking from experience, I find it invaluable for murdering bloopers and whopping inanities.
12 hrs
Thanks for this very useful piece of advice!
agree lien : but Arthur, there is such a button. On the right corner down with a kind of X
15 hrs
I didn't realize exactly what the "Hide" button was for. Also, I couldn't understand why my first two identical answers disappeared for a while.
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