Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
prime de rideau
English translation:
Relocation bonus/allowance/expenses
Added to glossary by
Duncan Moncrieff
Aug 2, 2014 15:08
9 yrs ago
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French term
prime de rideau
French to English
Law/Patents
Human Resources
Agreement between two companies. One is taking over the activities of the other. The agreement concerns how the long list of indemnités payable to the employees who are to made redundant is to be paid.
"- les frais ou les indemnités liés à une mobilité géographique et/ou fonctionnelle (notamment les frais d’entretien/voyage, les primes de prise de fonctions, de formations, les indemnités de période d’adaptation, de déménagements et de prime de « rideau ».)"
A little research turns up this, where a militaire célibataire says he wasn't given it last time he was rehoused: http://www.droitissimo.com/forum/fonction-publique/militaire...
It appears to be a sort of "moving-in bonus", but only if you have kids. What's the closest official English HR term for this?
"- les frais ou les indemnités liés à une mobilité géographique et/ou fonctionnelle (notamment les frais d’entretien/voyage, les primes de prise de fonctions, de formations, les indemnités de période d’adaptation, de déménagements et de prime de « rideau ».)"
A little research turns up this, where a militaire célibataire says he wasn't given it last time he was rehoused: http://www.droitissimo.com/forum/fonction-publique/militaire...
It appears to be a sort of "moving-in bonus", but only if you have kids. What's the closest official English HR term for this?
Proposed translations
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3 +2 | Relocation bonus/allowance/expenses | Duncan Moncrieff |
1 | relocation grant | Wendy Streitparth |
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Aug 4, 2014 09:26: Duncan Moncrieff Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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Relocation bonus/allowance/expenses
First we can be reasonably sure that the "prime" is a "bonus" and not just "frais de demenagement" as they are not treated in the same way by the Taxman (see http://info.caprelo.com/blog/bid/91982/Don-t-Confuse-Reimbur...
There are various conditions attached to it being available or not, e.g.:
The Requirements
The employee’s reason for relocation must be for one of the following reasons:-
• they are starting a new job
• there has been a change in their employment duties
• there has been a change of the place where their duties are usually performed
The expenses and benefits paid to the employee must be in at least one of six categories:-
• the employee’s sale of their former home
• the purchase of a new home
• transportation of the employee’s belongings to their new home
• associated travel and subsistence costs
• domestic goods for the new home
• bridging loans in relation to the purchase of the new home
Change of Sole or Main Residence
The employee does not have to sell their home for the relief to qualify, however they must change their residence to the new home in order to qualify.
Time Limit
The expenses must be incurred or the benefit given to the employee within one year following the end of the tax year in which the change to their employment occurred. For example, if a company moved its premises from London to Reading in June 2009, you would have until 5 April 2011 to take advantage of the allowance.
etc...
At this site one can get an idea of the French version, the "prime de rideau" for servicemen: http://www.auservicedumilitaire.com/?page_id=50
Another french ref:
PRIME D’INSTALLATION
La prime d’installation – ou ladite prime de rideau – offre à la personne expatriée un certain confort en termes financier lors de son arrivée. S’élevant généralement à un ou deux salaires, elle permet de couvrir les petites dépenses liées à l’emménagement. Dans le cadre d’un VIE, la prime d’installation peut aussi se traduire par la prise en charge d’une partie du déménagement, à savoir le financement de 150kg de bagages en soute. Dans certains cas, l’entreprise d’envoi peut accepter de prendre en charge l’intégralité de votre déménagement. Ce critère doit être négocié avec votre employeur.
Ref: http://bwing.fr/primes-dexpatriation/
There are various conditions attached to it being available or not, e.g.:
The Requirements
The employee’s reason for relocation must be for one of the following reasons:-
• they are starting a new job
• there has been a change in their employment duties
• there has been a change of the place where their duties are usually performed
The expenses and benefits paid to the employee must be in at least one of six categories:-
• the employee’s sale of their former home
• the purchase of a new home
• transportation of the employee’s belongings to their new home
• associated travel and subsistence costs
• domestic goods for the new home
• bridging loans in relation to the purchase of the new home
Change of Sole or Main Residence
The employee does not have to sell their home for the relief to qualify, however they must change their residence to the new home in order to qualify.
Time Limit
The expenses must be incurred or the benefit given to the employee within one year following the end of the tax year in which the change to their employment occurred. For example, if a company moved its premises from London to Reading in June 2009, you would have until 5 April 2011 to take advantage of the allowance.
etc...
At this site one can get an idea of the French version, the "prime de rideau" for servicemen: http://www.auservicedumilitaire.com/?page_id=50
Another french ref:
PRIME D’INSTALLATION
La prime d’installation – ou ladite prime de rideau – offre à la personne expatriée un certain confort en termes financier lors de son arrivée. S’élevant généralement à un ou deux salaires, elle permet de couvrir les petites dépenses liées à l’emménagement. Dans le cadre d’un VIE, la prime d’installation peut aussi se traduire par la prise en charge d’une partie du déménagement, à savoir le financement de 150kg de bagages en soute. Dans certains cas, l’entreprise d’envoi peut accepter de prendre en charge l’intégralité de votre déménagement. Ce critère doit être négocié avec votre employeur.
Ref: http://bwing.fr/primes-dexpatriation/
Reference:
http://www.taxinsider.co.uk/394-Relocation_Allowance.html
http://www.admin.cam.ac.uk/offices/hr/staff/benefits/relocation/
Note from asker:
thanks for your research. It seems reasonable, with the slight niggle that the text also speaks of a "prime de déménagements [sic]" - so I wonder whether a "prime de rideau" might be sthg slightly different. As you say, a "prime" can't be translated by "costs", so "prime de déménagement" can't be just "removal costs"... |
Peer comment(s):
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mchd
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Thanks mchd
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rkillings
: Just call it a bonus -- even if 'under certain conditions' some or all of it may not be taxable income; see http://www.cfecgc-carrefour.org/iso_album/revue_salariale_20...
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Thank you rkillings - yes the conditions for it are fairly precise and can vary between countries.
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Comment: "thanks: bonus I think. Wendy's "grant" seems to fit the context too but a prime is a prime"
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relocation grant
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Note added at 20 mins (2014-08-02 15:28:50 GMT)
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Relocation grant and assistance
http://www.burges-salmon.com/careers/legal/bristol_life/relo...
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Note added at 20 mins (2014-08-02 15:28:50 GMT)
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Relocation grant and assistance
http://www.burges-salmon.com/careers/legal/bristol_life/relo...
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