Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

diagnostic éducatif

English translation:

Educational diagnosis

Added to glossary by joanna menda
Jul 10, 2019 13:48
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French term

diagnostic éducatif

French to English Medical Medical (general) Hospitalization report
Hi everyone,

This is an 80-year-old patient who has been hospitalized for decompensated heart failure:

"Nous avons profité de l'hospitalisation pour effectuer un diagnostic éducatif dans le cadre de l'insuffisance cardiaque et intégrons Monsieur X dans notre programme d'éducation thérapeutique."

I found the following definition: "L'OMS définit le diagnostic éducatif comme la « première étape du processus pédagogique. Il s'agit d'un recueil systématique, détaillé et itératif d'informations par le soignant, concernant la situation bioclinique, éducative, psychologique et sociale du patient. Ces informations doivent servir de base pour la construction d'un programme d'éducation thérapeutique personnalisé. » [2]. Le diagnostic éducatif est aussi appelé anamnèse éducative."https://www.em-consulte.com/rmr/article/151363

Many of the translated sites use "Educational diagnosis" but when I search this term on Google it sends me to "education" sites and not medical...

This is for the US market.

Thanks

Joanna
Proposed translations (English)
3 Educational diagnosis

Discussion

José Patrício Jul 15, 2019:
OK, thanks
joanna menda (asker) Jul 14, 2019:
Thanks for all your input!
philgoddard Jul 11, 2019:
Educational needs assessment would be quite wrong in my opinion. The session is being used not only to diagnose the patient, but to educate them (and perhaps the doctor too) about their condition.
liz askew Jul 11, 2019:
Surely this is not about educational needs assessment though?
All the references point towards "educational diagnosis".
Also, this is about an 80-year-old patient, not a child or adolescent.
Daryo Jul 11, 2019:
yes, the term in EN does exist but can see how it would apply to this patient.
joanna menda (asker) Jul 10, 2019:
Hi, I found the English WHO paper and it does use "educational diagnosis" but it also uses "educational needs assessment" which I think I prefer http://www.euro.who.int/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/145294/E...
Daryo Jul 10, 2019:
really good match ... Educational diagnosis is the educational assessment of students in order to establish possible cognitive, emotional, health, perceptual, social and other factors that might be impacting on their academic achievement and school adjustment. Such diagnosis can also be sought where dyslexia, learning difficulties, learning disorders or reading disabilities etc are suspected.
https://psychology.wikia.org/wiki/Educational_diagnosis

vs

This is an 80-year-old patient who has been hospitalized for decompensated heart failure ...

this 80-year-old patient got so worried about his academic achievement that he ended up with decompensated heart failure? Surely makes sense!

Proposed translations

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Educational diagnosis

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Reference comments

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Reference:

Educational diagnosis

It’s what I think Educational diagnosis:
Educational diagnosis is the first stage - https://www.fondation-dermatite-atopique.org/en/healthcare-p...
Note from asker:
Hi José, could you put this as an answer so I can attribute you the points. Thanks :)
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree philgoddard : I don't see how else you could translate this. Joanna's text refers to a "programme d'éducation thérapeutique" and "la première étape du processus pédagogique".
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thanks: 1st stage - see the link: (evaluation of flare-up severity, treatments used, etc.), any difficulties encountered, future plans, needs, and so on.
neutral Daryo : maybe, maybe not - I would take translated texts with a pinch of salt - have you noticed that the name of the site is in French? Research & Education Hôtel-Dieu Saint Jacques, 2 rue Viguerie, 31000 Toulouse, France ...
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idem antherior agree
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