Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
pädagogischer Rahmen
English translation:
clear support structures
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Gudrun Maydorn (X)
Jan 7, 2011 17:14
13 yrs ago
German term
pädagogischer Rahmen
German to English
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Health and welfare
American English required.
From a psychiatric report. A boy with antisocial behavior is currently unhappy in his forster family. The psychiatrist recommends that he be placed in a youth welfare institution that offers accompanying therapeutic support.
Der klar strukturierte pädagogische Rahmen einer Jugendhilfeeinrichtung und flankierende verhaltensmodifizierende Maßnahmen sollen es ihm ermöglichen Einsicht in seine destruktiven Verhaltensweisen zu erlangen.
The clearly structured ..... setting (OR: The clear .... structures) of a youth welfare institution and accompanying behavior-modifying measures should enable him to gain insight into his destructive behavior.
I know that Pädagogik is notoriously difficult to translate into English. Please don't suggest anything with pedagogy - I have never yet come across a native English speaker who used this expression.
It does not mean educational here, but relates to child rearing.
Any help (with references preferably from US American sources) would be greatly appreciated.
From a psychiatric report. A boy with antisocial behavior is currently unhappy in his forster family. The psychiatrist recommends that he be placed in a youth welfare institution that offers accompanying therapeutic support.
Der klar strukturierte pädagogische Rahmen einer Jugendhilfeeinrichtung und flankierende verhaltensmodifizierende Maßnahmen sollen es ihm ermöglichen Einsicht in seine destruktiven Verhaltensweisen zu erlangen.
The clearly structured ..... setting (OR: The clear .... structures) of a youth welfare institution and accompanying behavior-modifying measures should enable him to gain insight into his destructive behavior.
I know that Pädagogik is notoriously difficult to translate into English. Please don't suggest anything with pedagogy - I have never yet come across a native English speaker who used this expression.
It does not mean educational here, but relates to child rearing.
Any help (with references preferably from US American sources) would be greatly appreciated.
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clear support structure
IMO, a clear „support structure“ is exactly what is offered here.
cf: www.dcsf.gov.uk/14-19/.../coventry_youth_mentoring_case_stu...
Since you were asking for US terminology, “Jugendhilfeeinrichtung” would be a “youth care facility”
[It is expected/we hope] "... that the clear support structure of a youth care facility, supplemented by behaviour therapy will make him aware of his destructive behavioural patterns"
cf: www.dcsf.gov.uk/14-19/.../coventry_youth_mentoring_case_stu...
Since you were asking for US terminology, “Jugendhilfeeinrichtung” would be a “youth care facility”
[It is expected/we hope] "... that the clear support structure of a youth care facility, supplemented by behaviour therapy will make him aware of his destructive behavioural patterns"
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Comment: "Johanna, your suggestion is almost identical with the expression that I have finally used. Many thanks."
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Educational branch/arm
The clearly defined/structured educational branch/arm of a young person's support unit/facility...
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instructive setting
I feel this would encompass education plus behaviour skills etc.
However "pedagogic" is commonly used and understood within psychiatric/medical reports/documents etc
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and so it doesn't sound so clumsy with structured, also thought of defined.......clearly defined instructive setting
However "pedagogic" is commonly used and understood within psychiatric/medical reports/documents etc
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and so it doesn't sound so clumsy with structured, also thought of defined.......clearly defined instructive setting
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remedial framework
I would suggest "remedial" might suit your context.
See example below from "Promoting Optimal Adolescent Development through Conflict Resolution Development..."
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Of course the quote should read "The application of conflict resolution..."
See example below from "Promoting Optimal Adolescent Development through Conflict Resolution Development..."
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Of course the quote should read "The application of conflict resolution..."
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The application conflict resolution modalities to adolescents is conceptualized within an educational/developmental, preventative and remedial framework...
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: that's the best. "educational" would sound less stern, but I think "remedial" hits on the correct course of action - from the psychiatrist's point of view.
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educative and formative setting
The clearly structured educative and formative environment
History /Purpose: A non-profit organization working with high - risk street children and adolescents. All funding for the project comes from religious organizations and voluntary donations. The children are offered a structured educative, formative program with the aim of identifying and relating with the needs of the individual.
http://www.spanishabroad.com/peru/Cusco/academia/volunteer_w...
formative - Susceptible to transformation by growth and development.
History /Purpose: A non-profit organization working with high - risk street children and adolescents. All funding for the project comes from religious organizations and voluntary donations. The children are offered a structured educative, formative program with the aim of identifying and relating with the needs of the individual.
http://www.spanishabroad.com/peru/Cusco/academia/volunteer_w...
formative - Susceptible to transformation by growth and development.
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the clearly-defined child rearing parameters of a youth facility...
Why not use your own suggestion of child rearing? Although pedagogic will fit here too and is used by professionals in this field
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