Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Nov 18, 2010 16:47
13 yrs ago
German term
strümpfig
German to English
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Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
a Southern German expression?
This is not about the normal meaning "without shoes" as in "Ich fahre immer strümpfig Auto". Here where I live something is "strümpfig" if it has not been done properly. For instance a birthday party could be called "strümpfig" if the host didn't take enough trouble over it. Or the boss doesn't really congratulate his employee on something he's done but just makes a passing comment. I know this expression exists, but I can't find any evidence and don't know how to render it in English (preferably as an adjective).
So my context would be : Hanna's Geburtstagsfeier war richtig strümpfig. She hatte nicht einmal einen Kuchen für ihre Gäste gebacken!"
So my context would be : Hanna's Geburtstagsfeier war richtig strümpfig. She hatte nicht einmal einen Kuchen für ihre Gäste gebacken!"
Proposed translations
(English)
3 +2 | lame | Andrea Black |
3 +1 | lackadaisical | casper (X) |
3 +1 | shabby | Frosty |
4 | slack | Jenny Streitparth |
2 +1 | half-arsed | Richard Nice |
3 | ho hum | Ingeborg Gowans (X) |
3 | a bit of a shambles / rather a poor show | Colin Rowe |
Proposed translations
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lame
Wenn ich mir vorstelle, das mir ein Jugendlicher das auf English erzählt, käme mir so spontan "lame" in den Sinn.
What a lame party....
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Note added at 49 mins (2010-11-18 17:37:05 GMT)
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Im gleichen Sinne
"It was pretty lame of his boss not to praise him for a job well done."
What a lame party....
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Note added at 49 mins (2010-11-18 17:37:05 GMT)
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Im gleichen Sinne
"It was pretty lame of his boss not to praise him for a job well done."
Note from asker:
Thank you Andrea, ( and Lisa!) |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Lisa Miles
: lame is def a young term and works here, or also something like slap dash, rough and ready, rubbish, crap (!) , crude, basic or base, uncouth, uncvilized, so many possiblities
21 mins
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You should post your suggestions! :-) Thanks.
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agree |
Edwin Miles
: This is the best suggestion so far. Colloquial, current.
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Thanks.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Once more I had the "Qual der Wahl" here in spite of the fact that this term is unknown in some parts of Germany. Between you (if I have counted right) 14 peers came up with 24 solutions! Which is the most helpful for me? Well, I think "lame" is the most universally useful one, although there are several others I will be using too, depending on the context. Thank you all for joining in so WHOLE-heartedly on this one! "
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49 mins
half-arsed
... which is why I asked about register...
Note from asker:
Thank you Richard, I'm thinking hard about this one. |
+1
58 mins
lackadaisical
In your examples:
The birthday party was a lackadaisical affair.
The lackadaisical attitude of the boss.
The birthday party was a lackadaisical affair.
The lackadaisical attitude of the boss.
Note from asker:
Thank you! "Lacking enthusiasm" is an important element of it, I think. |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Lonnie Legg
: "lacking enthusiasm and determination; carelessly lazy"(Am.Oxf.Dict.)
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Thank you, Lonnie Legg
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1 hr
shabby
Just a suggestion: a shabby affair; shabby treatment of people; kept in a shabby condition.
Note from asker:
Thank you, Frosty! |
1 hr
ho hum
another idea; nothing exciting, nothing to "write home about" in the direction of boring maybe;
unless you want to say: sub-standard which implies that there were "great expectations" for the birthday party , and she didn't even have streamers.. sort of like Mr. Bean and his Christmas party :)
unless you want to say: sub-standard which implies that there were "great expectations" for the birthday party , and she didn't even have streamers.. sort of like Mr. Bean and his Christmas party :)
Note from asker:
Thank you for your thoughts, Ingeborg! |
6 hrs
slack
Fits your examples.
One example under 09 September:
http://honeyhoneybakedham.blogspot.com/2009_09_01_archive.ht...
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These may be easier to understand than the blog/author of my first link:
- Lacking in diligence or due care or concern; negligent: a slack worker.
- To be careless or remiss in doing: slack one's duty.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/slack
Last year the party was slack due to only a days preparation and games just on the spur of the moment.
http://flyladyfaye.spaces.live.com/?_c11_BlogPart_pagedir=Ne...
One example under 09 September:
http://honeyhoneybakedham.blogspot.com/2009_09_01_archive.ht...
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Note added at 13 Stunden (2010-11-19 06:28:01 GMT)
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These may be easier to understand than the blog/author of my first link:
- Lacking in diligence or due care or concern; negligent: a slack worker.
- To be careless or remiss in doing: slack one's duty.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/slack
Last year the party was slack due to only a days preparation and games just on the spur of the moment.
http://flyladyfaye.spaces.live.com/?_c11_BlogPart_pagedir=Ne...
Note from asker:
Thank you Jenny. These are the examples I found on this blog, is that what you mean (the slack party?):Today's really slack for me. Boss hire me for display in the office. I did nothing but play CafeWorld and (trying to) tutorials. Alrighty, will be going to Oosh! at Dempsy at 7pm later. For some discussion regarding L'Oreal. Tata loves! Pictures from 2 ButterFactory parties.Sep 28, 2009 Sep 28, 2009 Was a pretty slack party I would say. Didn't intend to party hard core. So, don't really have much pictures. The rest of the pictures are at my facebook album : 090909. Butter cookies. [10 Sept] Next up. ... http://honeyhoneybakedham.blogspot.com/ clipped from Google - 11/2010 Day 5 at work! =)Dec 18, 2009 Dec 18, 2009 Anw, today's been pretty slack for me. Went for medical checkup for my insurance plan thingie (And realised I gained 4kg in 1mth) 37kg to 41kg! I think the weighing scale is spoilt. Haha, and wrote the rest of the Christmas cards! ... |
18 hrs
a bit of a shambles / rather a poor show
... might work. I think I would tend towards the first for the birthday, and the second for the inattentive boss.
If I have understood correctly, the word would appear to be used, at least sometimes, in a similar way to "schlampig" or "schäbig".
If I have understood correctly, the word would appear to be used, at least sometimes, in a similar way to "schlampig" or "schäbig".
Note from asker:
Thank you Colin for two more possibilities. |
Discussion
Some people would even go so far as to call the Unterfranken themselves "strümpfig" in a slightly different way, here meaning "hemdsärmlig", not standing on ceremony, lacking airs and graces, a bit rustic.
Apparently in the 19th century this word had a different slang meaning altogether : it was applied to a woman who was "easy to get" or even "eager for it". I suppose it was because she had already taken her shoes - and more - off when the man arrived. ;-)
Talking of "arsed", isn't there a DE expression something like "das kann ich auf einer Arschbacke absitzen".
"Half-baked" might be used more for ideas that have been badly-planned and not so much for the result. Can you say "The party was half-baked?"
Sorry to split hairs, but let's wait for more answers and comments!
Some of the other suggestions are rather good, but I will let you go it alone for a while longer.
A half-hearted affair?
(Edwin, which is better - no cake or half-baked...?)