Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

strümpfig

English translation:

lame

Added to glossary by British Diana
Nov 18, 2010 16:47
13 yrs ago
German term

strümpfig

German to English Other Idioms / Maxims / Sayings a Southern German expression?
This is not about the normal meaning "without shoes" as in "Ich fahre immer strümpfig Auto". Here where I live something is "strümpfig" if it has not been done properly. For instance a birthday party could be called "strümpfig" if the host didn't take enough trouble over it. Or the boss doesn't really congratulate his employee on something he's done but just makes a passing comment. I know this expression exists, but I can't find any evidence and don't know how to render it in English (preferably as an adjective).
So my context would be : Hanna's Geburtstagsfeier war richtig strümpfig. She hatte nicht einmal einen Kuchen für ihre Gäste gebacken!"

Discussion

British Diana (asker) Nov 19, 2010:
no, not impromptu, hazmat In Lower Franconia it is used quite a lot. I even see it on occasion in the local newspaper in the meaning I am trying to get translated!
Some people would even go so far as to call the Unterfranken themselves "strümpfig" in a slightly different way, here meaning "hemdsärmlig", not standing on ceremony, lacking airs and graces, a bit rustic.
Apparently in the 19th century this word had a different slang meaning altogether : it was applied to a woman who was "easy to get" or even "eager for it". I suppose it was because she had already taken her shoes - and more - off when the man arrived. ;-)
Richard Nice Nov 19, 2010:
Swabians say it all the time.
David Williams Nov 19, 2010:
That's a Shiner! I think 'thrown together' could most often be spot on - all depending on the context, though!
British Diana (asker) Nov 19, 2010:
Sorry Richard I don't get you.
Richard Nice Nov 19, 2010:
QDOS begat MS-DOS...
British Diana (asker) Nov 18, 2010:
Sorry, Ute "Quick and dirty" is yet another AE expression I was ignorant of. We say "cheap and cheerful" too, is that BE only?
Uta Kappler Nov 18, 2010:
quick and dirty Please excuse my American English. 'quick'n dirty' in AE does not really imply dirt or squalor, just means that the 'job' was done fast and not perfect or elaborate. My 'British' drawer is out of order today. ;-)
British Diana (asker) Nov 18, 2010:
@Ute I don't think it is anything to do with dirt. Careless yes, perhaps with an element of not taking trouble, not making the effort, being too casual about something which the other side have higher expectations of. "Die Preisverleihung war etwas strümpfig." does not mean it was squalid or sleazy or that the food was "crappy", and uncivilised is almost too strong...
British Diana (asker) Nov 18, 2010:
getting the register Re the register - well this term is by definition colloquial and has to be something I would use myself in everyday speech. I don't see myself actually saying the word "perfunctory", so that's almost out. But neither would I say "lackadaisical" or "half-arsed" or "crap" (probably I am not youthful enough for that).
Talking of "arsed", isn't there a DE expression something like "das kann ich auf einer Arschbacke absitzen".
"Half-baked" might be used more for ideas that have been badly-planned and not so much for the result. Can you say "The party was half-baked?"
Sorry to split hairs, but let's wait for more answers and comments!
Some of the other suggestions are rather good, but I will let you go it alone for a while longer.
Uta Kappler Nov 18, 2010:
Is this ... "carelessly" or rather "quick and dirty"?
Helen Shiner Nov 18, 2010:
How about 'thrown together', which I guess is an approximation of 'makeshift' perhaps with a slightly more perjorative tone.
Edwin Miles Nov 18, 2010:
Something... ...along the lines of "makeshift" or "slapdash" would be in the right direction, but I also like half-hearted, as Richard suggested. Half-baked?
Richard Nice Nov 18, 2010:
Q You need something equally colloquial? "Perfunctory" is too gehoben, for example?
A half-hearted affair?
(Edwin, which is better - no cake or half-baked...?)

Proposed translations

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lame

Wenn ich mir vorstelle, das mir ein Jugendlicher das auf English erzählt, käme mir so spontan "lame" in den Sinn.

What a lame party....

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Im gleichen Sinne

"It was pretty lame of his boss not to praise him for a job well done."
Note from asker:
Thank you Andrea, ( and Lisa!)
Peer comment(s):

agree Lisa Miles : lame is def a young term and works here, or also something like slap dash, rough and ready, rubbish, crap (!) , crude, basic or base, uncouth, uncvilized, so many possiblities
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You should post your suggestions! :-) Thanks.
agree Edwin Miles : This is the best suggestion so far. Colloquial, current.
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Thanks.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Once more I had the "Qual der Wahl" here in spite of the fact that this term is unknown in some parts of Germany. Between you (if I have counted right) 14 peers came up with 24 solutions! Which is the most helpful for me? Well, I think "lame" is the most universally useful one, although there are several others I will be using too, depending on the context. Thank you all for joining in so WHOLE-heartedly on this one! "
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half-arsed

... which is why I asked about register...
Note from asker:
Thank you Richard, I'm thinking hard about this one.
Peer comment(s):

agree David Williams : Very common in colloquial English too.
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lackadaisical

In your examples:

The birthday party was a lackadaisical affair.

The lackadaisical attitude of the boss.
Note from asker:
Thank you! "Lacking enthusiasm" is an important element of it, I think.
Peer comment(s):

agree Lonnie Legg : "lacking enthusiasm and determination; carelessly lazy"(Am.Oxf.Dict.)
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Thank you, Lonnie Legg
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shabby

Just a suggestion: a shabby affair; shabby treatment of people; kept in a shabby condition.
Note from asker:
Thank you, Frosty!
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agree Lisa Miles : yes shabby is good
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ho hum

another idea; nothing exciting, nothing to "write home about" in the direction of boring maybe;
unless you want to say: sub-standard which implies that there were "great expectations" for the birthday party , and she didn't even have streamers.. sort of like Mr. Bean and his Christmas party :)
Note from asker:
Thank you for your thoughts, Ingeborg!
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slack

Fits your examples.
One example under 09 September:
http://honeyhoneybakedham.blogspot.com/2009_09_01_archive.ht...




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These may be easier to understand than the blog/author of my first link:

- Lacking in diligence or due care or concern; negligent: a slack worker.
- To be careless or remiss in doing: slack one's duty.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/slack

Last year the party was slack due to only a days preparation and games just on the spur of the moment.
http://flyladyfaye.spaces.live.com/?_c11_BlogPart_pagedir=Ne...
Note from asker:
Thank you Jenny. These are the examples I found on this blog, is that what you mean (the slack party?):Today's really slack for me. Boss hire me for display in the office. I did nothing but play CafeWorld and (trying to) tutorials. Alrighty, will be going to Oosh! at Dempsy at 7pm later. For some discussion regarding L'Oreal. Tata loves! Pictures from 2 ButterFactory parties.Sep 28, 2009 Sep 28, 2009 Was a pretty slack party I would say. Didn't intend to party hard core. So, don't really have much pictures. The rest of the pictures are at my facebook album : 090909. Butter cookies. [10 Sept] Next up. ... http://honeyhoneybakedham.blogspot.com/ clipped from Google - 11/2010 Day 5 at work! =)Dec 18, 2009 Dec 18, 2009 Anw, today's been pretty slack for me. Went for medical checkup for my insurance plan thingie (And realised I gained 4kg in 1mth) 37kg to 41kg! I think the weighing scale is spoilt. Haha, and wrote the rest of the Christmas cards! ...
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a bit of a shambles / rather a poor show

... might work. I think I would tend towards the first for the birthday, and the second for the inattentive boss.

If I have understood correctly, the word would appear to be used, at least sometimes, in a similar way to "schlampig" or "schäbig".
Note from asker:
Thank you Colin for two more possibilities.
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