Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

in the world at large

English answer:

among people from all walks of life (and internationally)

Added to glossary by B D Finch
Oct 13, 2011 14:22
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English term

in the world at large

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(Our aim is:) to promote knowledge, understanding and acceptance of education otherwise than at school in the world at large.
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Oct 27, 2011 09:24: B D Finch Created KOG entry

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Ehsan Karimi (asker) Oct 19, 2011:
To B D Finch I'm sorry Madam.
I didn't know that. It's not rude to do that in Persian and I'm not native English speaker.
Stephanie Ezrol Oct 15, 2011:
I think that the phrase in question here is poorly written which makes it difficult to pin down exactly what they mean. However "world at large" is a very standard English expression and I would suggest finding a similar expression that mean people or society in general -- as opposed to the experts or specialists. That is one of the standard meanings of the phrase and how I think most native English speakers would hear it when reading the website.
AllegroTrans Oct 15, 2011:
Aims of the organisation (from its website)
Our principal aims are:
to encourage learning outside the school system;
to reaffirm that parents have primary responsibility for their children's education and that they have the right to exercise this responsibility by educating them out of school;
to establish the primary right of children to have full consideration given to their wishes and feelings about their education;
to promote knowledge, understanding and acceptance of education otherwise than at school in the world at large.

B D Finch Oct 15, 2011:
To Haghju No, I don't. Home schooling isn't generally done in a classroom, so "the world outside the classroom" doesn't really apply here.

Just a note, I am sure you didn't mean to be rude, but it is rude to address somebody just by their surname (except in the army), especially if they are female.
Ehsan Karimi (asker) Oct 15, 2011:
To Finch Salam! (:
So you agree with AllegroTrans's note (in the world outside the classroom)?
B D Finch Oct 14, 2011:
In or out of class? I think that "the world at large", here, includes the teaching profession. There are certainly education professionals who feel threatened by and oppose Education Otherwise because it seems to them to challenge their competence and professional exclusivity.
Ehsan Karimi (asker) Oct 14, 2011:
Which answer?! Salam! (:
I doubt between AllegroTrans's note (in the world outside the classroom) and B D Finch's answer (among people from all walks of life).
Which one do you confirm and why?
Thanks! (:
Tina Vonhof (X) Oct 14, 2011:
Agree with Stephanie and you could simply say 'in society'.
Stephanie Ezrol Oct 13, 2011:
@haghju. The world at large is frequently used to mean "people in general" as opposed to people in a specific field of expertise. I do think that that is how they are using the phrase in your text.
Ehsan Karimi (asker) Oct 13, 2011:
Refrence Thank you all!
As Kim addressed this text reference is: http://www.education-otherwise.net/index.php?option=com_cont...
It's about the "Education Otherwise Association Ltd." aims.
Education Otherwise give support and information to families whose children are being educated out of school or who are considering home-based education.
So now help me please!!
Thank's (:

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among people from all walks of life (and internationally)

As Kim points out, this is from the aims of Education Otherwise. A glance at their website does not indicate any involvement in the world outside the UK! Their "world at large" may well not include the 'great abroad' and I suspect that they really mean people from all walks of life in a world bounded by the Atlantic, North Sea and English Channel.
Peer comment(s):

agree Stephanie Ezrol : As you and Kim point out, they are talking about education outside educational institutions per se and want acceptance of "education otherwise than at school" by people in general (the world at large)
2 hrs
Thanks Stephanie
agree Veronika McLaren : While this association seems to be looking for support in the area bounded as you say, the idea of homeschooling and de-schooling is quite widespread in North America as well
19 hrs
Thanks Veronika. Yes, indeed. Ivan Illich wasn't even anglosaxon!
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3 mins

all over the world

everywhere
Peer comment(s):

agree Liz Dexter (was Broomfield)
3 mins
disagree AllegroTrans : I don't think this measn "all over the world" - it means in the world outside the classroom, surely?
3 mins
agree Lindsay Spratt
7 mins
neutral Kim Metzger : It refers to education provided outside the home. http://www.education-otherwise.net/index.php?option=com_cont...
55 mins
neutral Sheila Wilson : agree entirely with AllegroTrans - there's "the world of education" and a world outside of education
2 hrs
agree Thuy-PTT (X)
4 days
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5 mins

non-academic education in genral

education in all other spheres - in the workplace, through the media, etc.

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or you could say "in the world outside the classroom"
Peer comment(s):

neutral Carol Gullidge : I think it's talking about knowledge, understanding and acceptance in the world at large rather than education in the world at large. Note, that they already have "education otherwise than at school"//But this is about UNDERSTANDING, not about education!
32 mins
thanks, but I clearly see this as "otherwise than at school" and "world at large" as "outside school" ; all depends whether this is a local outfit or some kind of global institution (which we don't know)
neutral Kim Metzger : No, "the world at large" refers to education outside of the home. The text is about home education. http://www.education-otherwise.net/index.php?option=com_cont...
51 mins
the asker's text doesn't say anything whatever about the home.......
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9 mins

all over ther world, in general

all over ther world, in general

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Note added at 11 mins (2011-10-13 14:33:49 GMT)
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www.wemission.net/aboutus.htmltop left, General, image right ... The idea of World Education Mission (WEM) is to promote education all over the World. World Education Mission intends to ...
Institute of Human Sciences | Research | Ritsumeikan University
www.ritsumei.ac.jp/eng/html/research/centers/research.../04... which work together to promote education and research at Ritsumeikan University and network with researchers and academic societies all over the world. ...
Inclusion Europe | Education for All: 1Goal Campaign
www.e-include.eu/en/news/530-education-for-all-1goal-campai... have a new campaign called 1Goal to promote education. ... children with intellectual disabilities all over the world often do not receive a proper education. ...
M/S-Dewsoft Overseas Pvt. Ltd. - Education - New Delhi, India ...
www.facebook.com/pages/MS...Overseas-Pvt.../167668933285027... Overseas Pvt. Ltd. - To educate and promote education to the people ... LIVING THROUGH PROMOTING EDUCATION ALL OVER THE WORLD IN ...
EducationUSA | Study Abroad, Student Visa, University Fairs ...
educationusa.state.gov/EducationUSA centers actively promote U.S. higher education around the world by offering accurate, unbiased, comprehensive, objective and timely information ...

Saludos
eski :))
Peer comment(s):

disagree AllegroTrans : I don't think this means "all over the world" - it means in the world outside the classroom, surely?
15 mins
Thanks for your opinion; Allegro. eski :))
agree Carol Gullidge : yes, worldwide/global knowledge, understanding...
31 mins
Thanks, Carol: I second your opinion (above) , btw: eski :))
neutral Kim Metzger : The world outside the home. http://www.education-otherwise.net/index.php?option=com_cont...
50 mins
Hi Kim; thanks for your comment. eski :))
neutral Sheila Wilson : agree entirely with AllegroTrans - there's "the world of education" and a world outside of education
2 hrs
Hi Sheila: thanks for your comment. eski :))
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1 hr

in the world outside education, including, e.g. the legal profession, government, general public

Education Otherwise is a UK-based organisation, promoting home education and education outside school exclusively within the UK. When they say that one of their aims is to "to promote knowledge, understanding and acceptance of education otherwise than at school in the world at large", the "world" referred to is the general world outside education (but the UK "world" outside education - other countries of the world have different laws relating to home education and their campaign therefore does not extend to the rest of the world).

This interpretation is supported by some of their other material, e.g.

Since, however, too few people are even aware of their right to home educate, EO has worked to raise public awareness of the fact that, in the UK it is not school, but education, that is compulsory.

The introduction of the Every Child Matters agenda has brought many more professional[s] from many different agencies into awareness of home education.

Recommendation: training for solicitors in home education.
Recommendation: raise awareness about home education among judges and magistrates.
raise awareness of home education with the Ministry of Justice

If home education is more widely known and accepted, then home educated children will be able to be out and about in the community without being ostracised or intimidated.
http://www.education-otherwise.net/attachments/article/151/P...

These aims are met via our extensive network of volunteers and our informative public website. Support and information is provided to members, home educators, the media, local and national government and other interested parties including voluntary agencies. We also signpost to other services.
http://www.education-otherwise.net/attachments/article/307/T...


Peer comment(s):

agree Lara Barnett
5 hrs
Thanks, Lara
agree John Detre
6 hrs
Thanks, John
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4 days

in the world as a whole

i.e in the world in general
Peer comment(s):

agree Abouzar Oraki
2 days 19 hrs
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Reference comments

1 hr
Reference:

Info

Education Otherwise is a membership-based organisation that provides support and information for families whose children are being educated outside school, and for those who wish to uphold the freedom of families to take proper responsibility for the education of their children.
Our principal aims are:
to encourage learning outside the school system;
• to reaffirm that parents have primary responsibility for their children's education and that they have the right to exercise this responsibility by educating them out of school;
• to establish the primary right of children to have full consideration given to their wishes and feelings about their education;
• to promote knowledge, understanding and acceptance of education otherwise than at school in the world at large.

http://www.education-otherwise.net/index.php?option=com_cont...


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Why home educate?
Why do people choose to home educate their child(ren)?
Some families make a carefully considered decision to home educate long before their child reaches "school age." There may be philosophical, religious or various other reasons for their choice, and ultimately they feel that in some way they can offer a more suitable education for their children at home. It is also a natural choice for parents who have enjoyed participating in their child's early learning and see no reason to give up this responsibility when the child reaches the age of five.
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Reference:

world at large meaning people in general

Here are some examples of this type of use of "world at large"

"Among political historians, Curzon is the archrat: a turncoat and self-server who deserted his friends at the wave of an opportunity. And finally, among the world at large, he is a symbol of all that was wrong with British imperialism."
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/29/books/to-the-imperial-mann...

"Apart from the peculiar tenets of individual thinkers, there is also in the world at large an increasing inclination to stretch unduly the powers of society over the individual, both by the force of opinion and even by that of legislation: and as the tendency of all the changes taking place in the world is to strengthen society, and diminish the power of the individual, this encroachment is not one of the evils which tend spontaneously to disappear, but, on the contrary, to grow more and more formidable."
http://www.utilitarianism.com/ol/one.html
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree B D Finch : Not sure about "among the world at large" though.
1 hr
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