Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
la charge
English translation:
(BrE land) charge; (AmE land) lien
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Adrian MM. (X)
Oct 24, 2013 15:44
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French term
United Kingdom
dont il n'aurait...la libéralité
French to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
action for reduction / inter vivos gift
I'm going to have to post this as two questions, but they're both taken from the extract below:
"Le gratifié peut exécuter la réduction en nature, par dérogation à l’article 924, lorsque le bien lui appartient encore et qu’il est libre de toute charge dont il n’aurait pas déjà été grevé à la date de la libéralité, ainsi que de toute occupation dont il n’aurait pas déjà fait l’objet à cette même date."
At the moment, I have: "The beneficiary may execute the reduction in kind, notwithstanding article 924, if the asset is still in his possession and is free of any liens...."
Can anyone explain what is meant by "dont il n’aurait pas déjà été grevé à la date de la libéralité"? The negative is really clouding things for me.
MTIA!
"Le gratifié peut exécuter la réduction en nature, par dérogation à l’article 924, lorsque le bien lui appartient encore et qu’il est libre de toute charge dont il n’aurait pas déjà été grevé à la date de la libéralité, ainsi que de toute occupation dont il n’aurait pas déjà fait l’objet à cette même date."
At the moment, I have: "The beneficiary may execute the reduction in kind, notwithstanding article 924, if the asset is still in his possession and is free of any liens...."
Can anyone explain what is meant by "dont il n’aurait pas déjà été grevé à la date de la libéralité"? The negative is really clouding things for me.
MTIA!
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Oct 25, 2013 22:05: Adrian MM. (X) Created KOG entry
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French term (edited):
dont il n'aurait pas déjà été grevé à la date de la libéralité
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free of any charge to which it has not already been exposed by the date of the gift
already ... at the date of means by the date of.
Suggested translation of the first part:
'The donee {as a reserved heir automatically entitled} may make the abatement-in-kind {of excessive gifts reducing the rest of the estate available for distribution},...., when the asset {property inc. land} still belongs to the latter {it may not be in his actual possession} and when it is free....'
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Toute charge can be translated literally as any charge vs. lien for UK use, as lien does not attach to land cf. the US. Bien can be asset or land.
Suggested translation of the first part:
'The donee {as a reserved heir automatically entitled} may make the abatement-in-kind {of excessive gifts reducing the rest of the estate available for distribution},...., when the asset {property inc. land} still belongs to the latter {it may not be in his actual possession} and when it is free....'
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Note added at 5 hrs (2013-10-24 21:42:26 GMT)
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Toute charge can be translated literally as any charge vs. lien for UK use, as lien does not attach to land cf. the US. Bien can be asset or land.
Example sentence:
En principe, la réduction des libéralités excessives se fait en nature.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks, this answer was very similar to Sangro's but the explanation about "charges" swung it. Thanks to all who helped on this."
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with which he may have already been burdened at the date of issue.
"...notwithstanding (by derogation to) the provisions of Article 924, when the property still belonged to him and he is free of any expense with which he may have already been burdened at the date of issue."
or "at the time of issuance"
seems pretty straight forward language to me.
or "at the time of issuance"
seems pretty straight forward language to me.
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: Except that the original is expressed in the negative. "Might" rather than "may"? // The "il" refers to the property not the "gratifié" but I like "burdened".
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free of any liens that had not yet been imposed by that date
Liens that were imposed later.
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... after the date of the gift.
free of any liens that had not been imposed yet on date of the gift.
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... as of the date of the gift.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2013-10-24 19:16:13 GMT)
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... after the date of the gift.
free of any liens that had not been imposed yet on date of the gift.
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Note added at 3 hrs (2013-10-24 19:17:16 GMT)
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... as of the date of the gift.
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