Jan 21, 2019 19:02
5 yrs ago
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French term
doctrine des cabinets
French to English
Bus/Financial
Finance (general)
IFRS compliance
G'day (sorry just got back from Melbourne, wish I were still there instead of looking at 2 feet of snow and listening to the wind shake my house),
I'm looking for this very evocative phrase "doctrine des cabinets" as it fits with accounting standards. Does this mean the principles and/or practices of accounting firms specifically, or the accounting field generally?
"Le Groupe a retenu en accord avec la doctrine des cabinets le mode de comptabilisation ci-dessous qui consiste à reconnaître :"
... and then goes on to list the various items and how they are recognized in the accounts.
I'm looking for this very evocative phrase "doctrine des cabinets" as it fits with accounting standards. Does this mean the principles and/or practices of accounting firms specifically, or the accounting field generally?
"Le Groupe a retenu en accord avec la doctrine des cabinets le mode de comptabilisation ci-dessous qui consiste à reconnaître :"
... and then goes on to list the various items and how they are recognized in the accounts.
Proposed translations
(English)
3 | practice policy guidelines | Bijan Khezri |
4 -1 | the doctrine of Chartered accountant firms | Francois Boye |
3 -1 | professional (accounting) methodology | AllegroTrans |
Proposed translations
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practice policy guidelines
I was not aware of this term. The research shows that each practice has its own policy guidelines and there is a person in charge of such items. See links as well
Les dispositions prévues par la loi de sécurité financière organisent une nouvelle régulation mais on peut s'interroger sur l'adéquation des moyens. L'audit des grands groupes - celui qui intéresse en premier chef le public - s'appuie à la fois sur l'application des normes professionnelles homologuées, la validation de certaines interprétations des normes comptables par les responsables de la doctrine des cabinets et la mise en œuvre de disciplines complémentaires à la comptabilité.
Les dispositions prévues par la loi de sécurité financière organisent une nouvelle régulation mais on peut s'interroger sur l'adéquation des moyens. L'audit des grands groupes - celui qui intéresse en premier chef le public - s'appuie à la fois sur l'application des normes professionnelles homologuées, la validation de certaines interprétations des normes comptables par les responsables de la doctrine des cabinets et la mise en œuvre de disciplines complémentaires à la comptabilité.
Reference:
https://business.lesechos.fr/outils-et-services/services/lexique/9672-doctrine-fiscale-53178.php
Note from asker:
This looks like a plausibly flexible solution, though I must ask your patience til I hear back from my client because I don't want to make an inaccurate glossary entry. Thanks. |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Hi again! Better late than never(?). Thanks for your solution, which was accepted by my client. "
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professional (accounting) methodology
Forget doctrine
Accountants employ methodolology but it isn't doctrine
Accountants employ methodolology but it isn't doctrine
Note from asker:
This also looks like a solution, though I ask your patience til I hear back from my client... Thanks. |
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Francois Boye
: you ignore that doctrines are built into accounting:http://nersp.osg.ufl.edu/~acadian/brianpage/course/Top40Doct...
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The doctrine is in legal decisions handed down by the courts, not by accountants Francois, but we don't use the term "doctrine" for these in English
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B D Finch
: Possible, but this might be about the practice of specific "cabinets" that are part of a consortium.
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the doctrine of Chartered accountant firms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartered_accountant
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Note added at 19 hrs (2019-01-22 14:38:32 GMT)
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Top 40 Doctrine List
nersp.osg.ufl.edu/~acadian/brianpage/course/Top40Doctrines/TOP40.pdf
Acceleration of Income Doctrine: A taxpayer that carves out the ... a future income stream. 2. Accounting Method Definition: If a taxpayer treats an item or a type of.
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Note added at 19 hrs (2019-01-22 15:01:00 GMT)
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http://files.ali-aba.org/thumbs/datastorage/skoob/articles/B...
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Note added at 19 hrs (2019-01-22 14:38:32 GMT)
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Top 40 Doctrine List
nersp.osg.ufl.edu/~acadian/brianpage/course/Top40Doctrines/TOP40.pdf
Acceleration of Income Doctrine: A taxpayer that carves out the ... a future income stream. 2. Accounting Method Definition: If a taxpayer treats an item or a type of.
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Note added at 19 hrs (2019-01-22 15:01:00 GMT)
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http://files.ali-aba.org/thumbs/datastorage/skoob/articles/B...
Note from asker:
This is intriguing but I'm not sure that it applies in my client's specific context. Will have to hear from them before I can decide. Thanks meanwhile. |
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
AllegroTrans
: I hardly think this profession dicates "doctrine"; methodology yes, but it cannot be described as doctrine// in that case you might as well translate this as 'cabinet doctrine' and not bother with how English is used in the real world
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Do you think that the French language is so imprecise that it mistakes doctrine for methodology? Pls open your French dictionary!
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Discussion
Je me laisse peut-être influencer par mon expérience, mais compte tenu du fait que "Le Groupe a retenu... le mode de comptabilisation" "en accord avec... les cabinets", je ne vois pas comment les cabinets ne seraient pas ses comptables - peu importe leur catégorie. Par ailleurs, "list the various items and how they are recognized in the accounts" me semble correspondre à ce que l’on retrouve d’ordinaire - ici, du moins! - dans les premières notes afférentes aux états financiers qui s’intitulent "Basis of preparation" (which includes the Statement of compliance") et "Accounting policies" (which includes Basis of consolidation (for a Group), Revenue recognition, Goodwill, Functional Currency, Taxation, etc., etc.
La "doctrine comptable" (accounting litterature) existe bel et bien, mais je doute que ce soit un "bon fit" dans votre contexte.