localization and mapping (specifically Kartierung vs. Kartografierung)

German translation: some definitions

01:02 Oct 5, 2004
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Tech/Engineering - Automation & Robotics / autonomous navigation / robotic devices
English term or phrase: localization and mapping (specifically Kartierung vs. Kartografierung)
Used in robotics and autonomous navigation - "simultaneous localization and mapping"(SLAM), refers to the ability of a robotic device to navigate in its environment and to map said environment using landmarks, and storing the mapped information in its memory for future use.

There's a good number pertinent Google hits which give "Lokalisierung und Kartierung" and even refer back to the English term, giving the acronym in parentheses. Some of these references come from rather prestigious sources, such as Fraunhofer or the RWTH Aachen.

My question is this: client prefers, nay, *insists* on using Kartografierung instead of Kartierung. Which sounds wrong to me; it seems to me that Kartografierung and Kartierung are 2 different endeavors. But I can't really come up with a clear and convincing definition that lays out the difference. (Now this is the same person who took a considerable amount of persuading before conceding that an operating company is *not* ein aktives Unternehmen, so we have someone who would appear to be rather set in his ways. A selection of Google hits I've sent hasn't helped -- at least not so far).

Any feedback/opinions on this?
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Ulrike Lieder (X)
Local time: 03:10
German translation:some definitions
Explanation:
I found these definitions:

- Kartieren
Bedeutung:
Geometrisch genaues graphisches Auftragen von Punkten, Geraden und Kurven (z.B. bei der Herstellung von Katasterkarten).

- Kartografische Abbildung
Bedeutung:
Die graphische Darstellung der Oberfläche (oder sonstiger Punkte) eines Weltkörpers in einer Kartenebene (Zeichenebene) nach eindeutigen und umkehrbaren Punktzuordnungen mit Hilfe von Abbildungsgleichungen.

- Kartografische Darstellung
Bedeutung:
Die graphische Darstellung von Erscheinungen und Sachverhalten nach kartographischen Grundsätzen.

more interesting info on geodesy can be found here:
http://www.geoinformatik.uni-rostock.de/einzel.asp?ID=403307...

HTH!
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Johanna Timm, PhD
Canada
Local time: 03:10
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Da steh' ich nun, ich armer Tor und bin so klug als wie zuvor... Looks like the differences are really rather subtle. In searching around, I also found that the 2 terms are often used interchangeably. However, since we are *not* talking about "Weltkörper", but only about navigating in relatively small environments and mapping these environments, Kartierung would seem to be the better fit for the context (and it does seem to be the prevalent usage, at least in the context of autonomous navigation). Hopefully I can persuade the client that he doesn't need to reinvent the wheel (even though he seems hell-bent on doing so). Thank you very much!
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localization and mapping (specifically kartierung vs. kartografierung)
Kartierung


Explanation:
Kartografierung is associated with the English word cartography. Cartography is map-making. It makes me think of Columbus rather than a robot. Sounds like you need the word that describes mapping out territory, not political geography. I'm not familiar with Kartierung, but this is my take on Kartografierung.

JM Simon (X)
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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It was exactly the difference between the two that I was after. But thank you for taking the time to answer.
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Comment: It was exactly the difference between the two that I was after. But thank you for taking the time to answer.

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localization and mapping (specifically kartierung vs. kartografierung)
some definitions


Explanation:
I found these definitions:

- Kartieren
Bedeutung:
Geometrisch genaues graphisches Auftragen von Punkten, Geraden und Kurven (z.B. bei der Herstellung von Katasterkarten).

- Kartografische Abbildung
Bedeutung:
Die graphische Darstellung der Oberfläche (oder sonstiger Punkte) eines Weltkörpers in einer Kartenebene (Zeichenebene) nach eindeutigen und umkehrbaren Punktzuordnungen mit Hilfe von Abbildungsgleichungen.

- Kartografische Darstellung
Bedeutung:
Die graphische Darstellung von Erscheinungen und Sachverhalten nach kartographischen Grundsätzen.

more interesting info on geodesy can be found here:
http://www.geoinformatik.uni-rostock.de/einzel.asp?ID=403307...

HTH!

Johanna Timm, PhD
Canada
Local time: 03:10
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 8
Grading comment
Da steh' ich nun, ich armer Tor und bin so klug als wie zuvor... Looks like the differences are really rather subtle. In searching around, I also found that the 2 terms are often used interchangeably. However, since we are *not* talking about "Weltkörper", but only about navigating in relatively small environments and mapping these environments, Kartierung would seem to be the better fit for the context (and it does seem to be the prevalent usage, at least in the context of autonomous navigation). Hopefully I can persuade the client that he doesn't need to reinvent the wheel (even though he seems hell-bent on doing so). Thank you very much!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Andrew D: Kartographierung scheint der breitere Begriff zu sein von der Kartenerstellung bis zur Nutzung: http://www.geoinformatik.uni-rostock.de/einzel.asp?ID=1025
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